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mixed disk types in one aggregate

Hello Netapp Community,

I have a couple of questions regarding mixing disk types into one aggregate.
We will soon get a new FAS6280 clustered config with 3 kinds of disks.
• 36 x 100GB SSD DISKS
• 72 x 600 GB SAS 10000 RPM
• 72 x 1 TB SATA 72000 RPM

This is the first time that I will get a Netapp config with different kinds of disks under the same controllers.
I'm wondering what would be the best way to create the aggregate(s).

Would it be wise to combine the different disk types into one aggregate, or should we create one aggregate per disk type ?

I guess it should be possible to use all disks in one aggregate as long as we create RAID groups per disk type and do not mix disks types in the RAID groups right?

If it is possible, would there be a benefit in mixing the different disk types into one aggregate?
We would like to have the possibility to migrate a volume between Tiers later as we see fit,
for example moving a volume from SAS to SATA, from SAS to SSD, etc. without any downtime for the hosts that are using the volume.

If we decide to add all disk types to the same aggregate, would it be possible to do this?

Would there be any disadvantages to doing this ?
Or am I completely wrong here and should we create 3 separate aggregates instead ?

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

hi billy,

best practice is to have an aggregate for each disk type. besides we recommend to have the fast ssd/sas disks on one head, the high capacity sata disks on another controller.

in addition you can create aggregates with the ssds for high performance databases or you can add a few of these ssds to a sas or sata aggregate as an ssd read/write cache.

on a personal note: did you guys buy that system without a concept behind that and without a base installation and training?!

Kind regards,

Thomas

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

Hi,

If you put 10k SAS and 7,2k SATA to same aggregate, then SAS disks operate as slow as SATA disks, so you would just lose in this case.
If it clustered ontap, you can move volume from SATA aggregate to SAS aggregate NDU.


Br.
Ismo.

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

Data ONTAP won't allow a mix of SAS and SATA in the same aggregate so the good news is it prevents the ability to have degraded drives like this... FlashPools (formerly hybrid aggregates) do allow mixing SSD with HDD (either SAS or SATA though or you can create a separate aggregate with all SSD....definitely a good point above on what the configuration was sized for and the layout in concept for the workloads.

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

7-Mode
>raid.disktype.enable

Cluster ONTAP
>storage raid-options modify - raid.disktype.enable

Mixing disks of different types in one aggregate is not allowed by default, but the option raid.disktype.enable can be used to relax that rule.

Mixing disks in aggregate can be done, but you cannot mix example SAS and SATA disks in the same raid group.

Br.
Ismo.

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

Thanks for your reactions everyone.

We will probably do it the following way:
One controller with a SATA aggregate + SSD's as cache
One controller with a SAS aggregate.
Maybe we will add some SSD's to the SAS aggregate as cache as well, or maybe we will use all SSDs on that controller for a separate SSD tier for high-performance databases. Still thinking about that one.

For the transparent moving of volumes between aggregates,
I guess we can use the “Cluster-Mode Transparent Volume Move” feature.

I have one more question about adding the SSD's to the aggregate as cache:
When we would add some SSD disks to the SAS aggregate for example,
do they really become a part of the array? or will they be a special kind of disk that can be removed from the array again when needed without too much hassle ?
We would like to play around a bit with this, add some SSD's to the SAS aggregate and then evaluate the performance gain, and maybe remove them again later in case we decide to use them for a separate SSD aggregate instead. Is this possible, or do the SSD's have to stay in the SAS aggregate forever after adding them as "cache" disks ?

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

Once SSDs (or any raid group) are added to an aggregate, they can’t be removed without destroying the entire aggregate.

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

Hello,

If you add SSD disks to an aggregate, you cannot remove those. You would have to destroy the whole aggregate to do that.

Br.
Ismo.

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

thanks guys, that's all the info I needed.

Re: mixed disk types in one aggregate

In a SAN world (iSCSI, FCP)  the "vol move" command allows you to migrate volumes between aggregates without interrupting the host access. Are you planning to use 7mode or cmode?