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    <title>topic Using XDP snapmirror  replace tape solution backup in HFC environment in Data Protection</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Data-Protection/Using-XDP-snapmirror-replace-tape-solution-backup-in-HFC-environment/m-p/144022#M12269</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Current&amp;nbsp; Environment :&amp;nbsp; HFC (High File Count NAS Environment ) , 10 node Cluster&amp;nbsp; Ontap9.1 , NDMP ,&amp;nbsp; dozens of LTO Tape Drives.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What can we do before :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Production Cluster hourly snapmirror update to&amp;nbsp; DR Cluster&amp;nbsp; ( DP snapmirror )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Monthly Full NDMP Backup for every Volume ;&amp;nbsp; Daily NDMP Incremental&amp;nbsp; backup every&amp;nbsp; 3~5 days.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Source Volume take snapshot every 12hr and keep 4 copies.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What we can do now :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Keep 1hr RPO ( hourly XDP snapmirror&amp;nbsp; update )&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; Keep 30 Daily snapshot&amp;nbsp; at DR Cluster&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; as Daily Backup&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Source Volume take snapshot every 12hr and keep 4 copies.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4. Only Full NDMP backup using Tape Drive&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My procedure as&amp;nbsp; below :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. create&amp;nbsp; new snapmirror&amp;nbsp; policy&amp;nbsp; name "Vault_Daily"&amp;nbsp; as&amp;nbsp; tpye "mirror-vault"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; add-rule to policy "Vault_Daily" for Destination Local take snapshot daily&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;snapmirror policy add-rule -vserver&amp;nbsp;svm1&amp;nbsp;-policy Vault_Daily -schedule daily&amp;nbsp; -snapmirror-label N_Daily -keep 30&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="xdp1.jpg" style="width: 685px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8560i6C8055A4E12124F0/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="xdp1.jpg" alt="xdp1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PS :&amp;nbsp; This rule is used to create Daily snapshot ONLY at destination cluster Local only ( not update and transfer from source )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then we can see destination volume have daily snapshot named as N_Daily...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="xdp2.jpg" style="width: 377px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8561i2E6B3C68D57C953A/image-dimensions/377x150?v=v2" width="377" height="150" role="button" title="xdp2.jpg" alt="xdp2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For new volume create XDP snapmirror relationship and using&amp;nbsp; policy "Vault_Daily" then initialize.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For&amp;nbsp; original DP relateionship volumes, you can take links below to convert DP to XDP snapmirror .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://docs.netapp.com/ontap-9/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.netapp.doc.pow-dap%2FGUID-495CB590-1566-4BE4-B212-B4B9A0224AC9.html" target="_self"&gt;http://docs.netapp.com/ontap-9/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.netapp.doc.pow-dap%2FGUID-495CB590-1566-4BE4-B212-B4B9A0224AC9.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PS: make sure all destination volume is&amp;nbsp; thin-provition and snapshot autodelete is disable.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; Enable Volume Efficiency at destination volume for space saving to keep more snapshot copy&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;volume efficiency modify -compression true -inline-compression true -data-compaction true&amp;nbsp; &lt;U&gt;volumeXX&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. start volume efficiency scan&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;volume efficiency start -dedupe true -compression true -compaction true -scan-old-data true -b true&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;volumeXX&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note1 :&amp;nbsp; -scan-old-data is needed for getting&amp;nbsp; Full saving rate;&amp;nbsp; -b true&amp;nbsp; for compress snapshot data&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note2 :&amp;nbsp; (Limitation) the &lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;concurrent efficiency jobs is 8 per-node&lt;/FONT&gt;,&amp;nbsp; so it took me&amp;nbsp; several weeks for&amp;nbsp; "-scan-old-data" efficiency jobs for all destination volumes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PS : in my experience, it scans about 2TB~3TB data every 24hr when scan-old-data. That means&amp;nbsp; if the volume size is 10TB, it may take about 5 days for volume efficiency start with scan-old-data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note3 : For XDP destination volume that enable volume efficiency,&amp;nbsp; efficiency job can not scheduled, efficiency job will auto start after every snapmirror update.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note4 :&amp;nbsp; During&amp;nbsp; efficiency start as scan-old-data job running, all snapshots created is huge and have no saving, please keep monitor the destination volume space used during scan-old-data.&amp;nbsp; You need to wait for those "giant snapshot" being rorated for release the space used by "no saving giant snapshot".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then&amp;nbsp; a month after, I&amp;nbsp; am really&amp;nbsp; amazing.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The total volume size of source volumes is around 365388GB.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;But the total physical size used in Destination Cluster is 301660( include 1hr RPO copy and 30 daily snapshot copies).&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I got greate saving rate and really amazing that&amp;nbsp; destination volume with 30 daily snapshot take less space than source volume.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="xdp3.jpg" style="width: 354px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8562i5ABAC6F2FAF41927/image-dimensions/354x276?v=v2" width="354" height="276" role="button" title="xdp3.jpg" alt="xdp3.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Using XDP snapmirror can meet DR/Backup requirement&amp;nbsp; and working much better than "&lt;SPAN&gt;Synthetic Backup" with any backup software.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 13:12:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>River</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-06-04T13:12:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Using XDP snapmirror  replace tape solution backup in HFC environment</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Data-Protection/Using-XDP-snapmirror-replace-tape-solution-backup-in-HFC-environment/m-p/144022#M12269</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Current&amp;nbsp; Environment :&amp;nbsp; HFC (High File Count NAS Environment ) , 10 node Cluster&amp;nbsp; Ontap9.1 , NDMP ,&amp;nbsp; dozens of LTO Tape Drives.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What can we do before :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Production Cluster hourly snapmirror update to&amp;nbsp; DR Cluster&amp;nbsp; ( DP snapmirror )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Monthly Full NDMP Backup for every Volume ;&amp;nbsp; Daily NDMP Incremental&amp;nbsp; backup every&amp;nbsp; 3~5 days.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Source Volume take snapshot every 12hr and keep 4 copies.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What we can do now :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Keep 1hr RPO ( hourly XDP snapmirror&amp;nbsp; update )&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; Keep 30 Daily snapshot&amp;nbsp; at DR Cluster&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; as Daily Backup&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Source Volume take snapshot every 12hr and keep 4 copies.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4. Only Full NDMP backup using Tape Drive&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My procedure as&amp;nbsp; below :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. create&amp;nbsp; new snapmirror&amp;nbsp; policy&amp;nbsp; name "Vault_Daily"&amp;nbsp; as&amp;nbsp; tpye "mirror-vault"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; add-rule to policy "Vault_Daily" for Destination Local take snapshot daily&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;snapmirror policy add-rule -vserver&amp;nbsp;svm1&amp;nbsp;-policy Vault_Daily -schedule daily&amp;nbsp; -snapmirror-label N_Daily -keep 30&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="xdp1.jpg" style="width: 685px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8560i6C8055A4E12124F0/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="xdp1.jpg" alt="xdp1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PS :&amp;nbsp; This rule is used to create Daily snapshot ONLY at destination cluster Local only ( not update and transfer from source )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then we can see destination volume have daily snapshot named as N_Daily...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="xdp2.jpg" style="width: 377px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8561i2E6B3C68D57C953A/image-dimensions/377x150?v=v2" width="377" height="150" role="button" title="xdp2.jpg" alt="xdp2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For new volume create XDP snapmirror relationship and using&amp;nbsp; policy "Vault_Daily" then initialize.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For&amp;nbsp; original DP relateionship volumes, you can take links below to convert DP to XDP snapmirror .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://docs.netapp.com/ontap-9/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.netapp.doc.pow-dap%2FGUID-495CB590-1566-4BE4-B212-B4B9A0224AC9.html" target="_self"&gt;http://docs.netapp.com/ontap-9/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.netapp.doc.pow-dap%2FGUID-495CB590-1566-4BE4-B212-B4B9A0224AC9.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PS: make sure all destination volume is&amp;nbsp; thin-provition and snapshot autodelete is disable.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; Enable Volume Efficiency at destination volume for space saving to keep more snapshot copy&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;volume efficiency modify -compression true -inline-compression true -data-compaction true&amp;nbsp; &lt;U&gt;volumeXX&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. start volume efficiency scan&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008000"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;volume efficiency start -dedupe true -compression true -compaction true -scan-old-data true -b true&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;volumeXX&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note1 :&amp;nbsp; -scan-old-data is needed for getting&amp;nbsp; Full saving rate;&amp;nbsp; -b true&amp;nbsp; for compress snapshot data&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note2 :&amp;nbsp; (Limitation) the &lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;concurrent efficiency jobs is 8 per-node&lt;/FONT&gt;,&amp;nbsp; so it took me&amp;nbsp; several weeks for&amp;nbsp; "-scan-old-data" efficiency jobs for all destination volumes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PS : in my experience, it scans about 2TB~3TB data every 24hr when scan-old-data. That means&amp;nbsp; if the volume size is 10TB, it may take about 5 days for volume efficiency start with scan-old-data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note3 : For XDP destination volume that enable volume efficiency,&amp;nbsp; efficiency job can not scheduled, efficiency job will auto start after every snapmirror update.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;note4 :&amp;nbsp; During&amp;nbsp; efficiency start as scan-old-data job running, all snapshots created is huge and have no saving, please keep monitor the destination volume space used during scan-old-data.&amp;nbsp; You need to wait for those "giant snapshot" being rorated for release the space used by "no saving giant snapshot".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then&amp;nbsp; a month after, I&amp;nbsp; am really&amp;nbsp; amazing.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The total volume size of source volumes is around 365388GB.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;But the total physical size used in Destination Cluster is 301660( include 1hr RPO copy and 30 daily snapshot copies).&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I got greate saving rate and really amazing that&amp;nbsp; destination volume with 30 daily snapshot take less space than source volume.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="xdp3.jpg" style="width: 354px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8562i5ABAC6F2FAF41927/image-dimensions/354x276?v=v2" width="354" height="276" role="button" title="xdp3.jpg" alt="xdp3.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Using XDP snapmirror can meet DR/Backup requirement&amp;nbsp; and working much better than "&lt;SPAN&gt;Synthetic Backup" with any backup software.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 13:12:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Data-Protection/Using-XDP-snapmirror-replace-tape-solution-backup-in-HFC-environment/m-p/144022#M12269</guid>
      <dc:creator>River</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-04T13:12:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Using XDP snapmirror  replace tape solution backup in HFC environment</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Data-Protection/Using-XDP-snapmirror-replace-tape-solution-backup-in-HFC-environment/m-p/145073#M12270</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi River,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thanks for the Detailed Post about your Setup,&amp;nbsp;that's Great Savings on your DR Site! and &amp;nbsp;Yes I can understand Space Usage can become very confusing&amp;nbsp; especially when your DR Destination with more snapshots takes less space then your Production with less snapshots. In general only a DP Mirror will copy a exact block based Copy to the Destination and therefor its hard to compare a source with a XDP Destination as they are not Block related but the&amp;nbsp;logical Data is related.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Please consider:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt; you have 2&amp;nbsp;different keep patterns which can significantly alter data grow rate&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-Source&amp;nbsp; 4x 12h Snapshots + Dayly Snapmirror&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-Destination: 30x 24h Snapshots&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt; your Destination is using on Top of Deduplication,&amp;nbsp;Compression which can&amp;nbsp;significantly boost up Space Savings depending on the Sour Data.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;please let us know if you have more questions on this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Detailed&amp;nbsp;information's about Dedupe and Compression can be found in our Technical Report&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TR-4476 &lt;A href="https://www.netapp.com/us/media/tr-4476.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;NetApp Data Compression, Deduplication,and Data Compaction &lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2018 08:56:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Data-Protection/Using-XDP-snapmirror-replace-tape-solution-backup-in-HFC-environment/m-p/145073#M12270</guid>
      <dc:creator>DataOntaper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-03T08:56:02Z</dc:date>
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