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    <title>topic Re: FlexClone vs A-SIS Deduplication for Filesystem-Based VM's in ONTAP Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-vs-A-SIS-Deduplication-for-Filesystem-Based-VM-s/m-p/50612#M11910</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Various comments....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Don't forget single-file flexclone -- you can use that inside a volume and may be exactly what you want here.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;2020 Dedup Volume Size Limit -- on 7.2.x the 2020 is limited to 500 GB volume size for dedup. Under 7.3.x that limit is raised to 1 TB.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Dedup and file count -- given dedup works at a block layer and the virtual machines are encapsulated inside virtual disk files, dedup/ONTap won't care at all about the file count inside the virtual machine.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SnapMirror -- no issues there if doing volume SnapMirror as that works at the block level (so if data is already deduplicated it's not "inflated" for transfer).&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd probably go with putting them all inside a single volume and potentially look at single-file FlexClone to make that easier.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 21:40:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>amiller_1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-15T21:40:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>FlexClone vs A-SIS Deduplication for Filesystem-Based VM's</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-vs-A-SIS-Deduplication-for-Filesystem-Based-VM-s/m-p/50607#M11909</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a series of ~10 virtual machines, all of which share a common history.&amp;nbsp; The machines are have Debian Linux filesystems, the base of which is about 30G with 1.8m individual files.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;I could rebuild a "master" machine, FlexClone it 10 times, then rebuild each VM's personality.&amp;nbsp; Each VM will have it's own volume with size limit. New data won't be scanned for duplicates.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;I could stuff all 10 existing machines into a single flexible volume (e.g. /vol/xen_vm/machine1 /vol/xen_vm/machine2 ), then use A-SIS deduplication to bring the size down.&amp;nbsp; I'll be stuck with a limit of 500G total on an FAS2020.&amp;nbsp; All volumes will share a single size limit.&amp;nbsp; But any new data added will be scanned for duplication.&amp;nbsp; My understanding is that A-SIS works only on a single volume.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;I wish to SnapMirror backup the entire set.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm seeking some experience or thoughs on these options.&amp;nbsp; I have read &lt;A href="http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/05/flexclones-versus-deduplication-with-vmware-infrastructure/" target="_blank"&gt;http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/05/flexclones-versus-deduplication-with-vmware-infrastructure/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The same question is at &lt;A href="https://forums.netapp.com/message/18419#18419" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.netapp.com/message/18419#18419&lt;/A&gt; (I'm a bit fuzzy on why there are two separate netapp supported forums)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:14:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bepresseditor</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T07:14:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FlexClone vs A-SIS Deduplication for Filesystem-Based VM's</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-vs-A-SIS-Deduplication-for-Filesystem-Based-VM-s/m-p/50612#M11910</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Various comments....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Don't forget single-file flexclone -- you can use that inside a volume and may be exactly what you want here.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;2020 Dedup Volume Size Limit -- on 7.2.x the 2020 is limited to 500 GB volume size for dedup. Under 7.3.x that limit is raised to 1 TB.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Dedup and file count -- given dedup works at a block layer and the virtual machines are encapsulated inside virtual disk files, dedup/ONTap won't care at all about the file count inside the virtual machine.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SnapMirror -- no issues there if doing volume SnapMirror as that works at the block level (so if data is already deduplicated it's not "inflated" for transfer).&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd probably go with putting them all inside a single volume and potentially look at single-file FlexClone to make that easier.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 21:40:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-vs-A-SIS-Deduplication-for-Filesystem-Based-VM-s/m-p/50612#M11910</guid>
      <dc:creator>amiller_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-05-15T21:40:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FlexClone vs A-SIS Deduplication for Filesystem-Based VM's</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-vs-A-SIS-Deduplication-for-Filesystem-Based-VM-s/m-p/50616#M11911</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the 7.3 note on the size.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But single file FlexClone won't work.&amp;nbsp; VMWare uses a large virtual file per VM.&amp;nbsp; With Xen I have thousands of files per VM.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We'll be going with A-SIS, and lamenting that since all the VM's will be part of the same volume, a "disk full" condition in any one of them will bring them all down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 06:50:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bepresseditor</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-05-16T06:50:38Z</dc:date>
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