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    <title>topic Re: Snapshots, Snapmirror and Dedupe in ONTAP Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshots-Snapmirror-and-Dedupe/m-p/61405#M14473</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you! This explains it perfectly and was confirmed by my testing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:48:17 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>JCASON</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-12-02T16:48:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Snapshots, Snapmirror and Dedupe</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshots-Snapmirror-and-Dedupe/m-p/61394#M14467</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have many existing volumes which seem to be good candidates for dedupe.&amp;nbsp; These volumes have regular snapshots and snapmirror snapshots.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have some internal confusion on the issue with deduplication and snapshots.&amp;nbsp; The guides I have read say something along the lines of, a snapshot "locks" blocks which are not available to be deduped.&amp;nbsp; Can anybody explain what this actually means?&amp;nbsp; As in, if I take a snapshot of a volume with many duplicate blocks, make no changes to the active file system (i.e. snapshot doesn't grow) and then run dedupe, does this mean that I will see zero savings on it?&amp;nbsp; When the snapshot expires, will I then instantly see dedupe savings?&amp;nbsp; Or am I required to re-run dedupe with no existing snapshots in order to see savings?&amp;nbsp; Or does it mean something else entirely?!&amp;nbsp; Does it mean that if I take that snapshot, then change blocks (i.e. snapshot grows to reference those blocks not in the active file system), that &lt;EM&gt;those&lt;/EM&gt; blocks are locked and unable to be deduped, but the active file system can be deduped entirely?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I feel like I have a pretty good understanding of the snapshot process, but as it stands I can't figure out how we would ever get any meaningful performance out of dedupe on some of these volumes which are either snapshotted or snapmirrored fairly frequently.&amp;nbsp; My understanding is that any block which is referenced by a snapshot does not get deduped.&amp;nbsp; The guides and explanations I've read make sense for snapmirroring infrequently (weekly or even daily).&amp;nbsp; But if I am snapmirroring once every 30 minutes, virtually all blocks at all times will be "locked" in snapshots.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hopefully I am reading this wrong!&amp;nbsp; We would like to use dedupe on some of these volumes but it seems like this would have to be a manual process...for instance, once a month, manually clear all snapshots and break snapmirrors, dedupe, then re-establish snapmirror and snapshot schedules.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 06:40:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JCASON</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T06:40:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapshots, Snapmirror and Dedupe</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshots-Snapmirror-and-Dedupe/m-p/61400#M14470</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE __jive_macro_name="quote" class="jive_text_macro jive_macro_quote" modifiedtitle="true"&gt;&lt;P&gt; As in, if I take a snapshot of a volume with many duplicate blocks, make no changes to the active file system (i.e. snapshot doesn't grow) and then run dedupe, does this mean that I will see zero savings on it?&amp;nbsp; When the snapshot expires, will I then instantly see dedupe savings? &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is *almost* correct. In fact it will look as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- existing snapshot, 0GB in size&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- dedupe is run and 'saves', say, 50GB of space&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- snapshot grows at the same time by the same value&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- snapshot expires and at that point in time your savings become 'real'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Radek&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:59:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshots-Snapmirror-and-Dedupe/m-p/61400#M14470</guid>
      <dc:creator>radek_kubka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-12-02T14:59:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapshots, Snapmirror and Dedupe</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshots-Snapmirror-and-Dedupe/m-p/61405#M14473</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you! This explains it perfectly and was confirmed by my testing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:48:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshots-Snapmirror-and-Dedupe/m-p/61405#M14473</guid>
      <dc:creator>JCASON</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-12-02T16:48:17Z</dc:date>
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