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    <title>topic Re: NetApp storage and backup  solutions for Subversion (SVN) in ONTAP Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;hmmm..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I'm wondering, maybe NetApp dont have any solutions for SVN backup and restore..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;can we or can we not leverage on snapshots technology in NetApp for SVN?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:06:17 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>cebulrdcis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-26T12:06:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>NetApp storage and backup  solutions for Subversion (SVN)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/NetApp-storage-and-backup-solutions-for-Subversion-SVN/m-p/62407#M14743</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="height: 8pt"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Were in a situation to migrate  our existing subversion (svn)  storage into our NetApp storage for the purpose of storage consolidation, lexibility in increasing capacity and for using NetApp snapshots technology in backup. Our subversion sever is running  on Solaris 10 (x86 ) operating system and using subverseion 1.4.6.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="height: 8pt"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your inputs and solutions (storage and backup)  for subversion in NetApp is highly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="height: 8pt"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="height: 8pt"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;tons &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Message was edited by: Antoni Mutia&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:33:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cebulrdcis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T07:33:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: NetApp storage and backup  solutions for Subversion (SVN)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/NetApp-storage-and-backup-solutions-for-Subversion-SVN/m-p/62412#M14744</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;by the way, below are some important information that for our setup.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;--&amp;gt;  "FSFS" is the name of a Subversion filesystem for the DB.&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:34:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/NetApp-storage-and-backup-solutions-for-Subversion-SVN/m-p/62412#M14744</guid>
      <dc:creator>cebulrdcis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-11-05T07:34:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: NetApp storage and backup  solutions for Subversion (SVN)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/NetApp-storage-and-backup-solutions-for-Subversion-SVN/m-p/62416#M14745</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Should I store my repository / working copy on a NFS server?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you are  using a repository with the Berkeley DB back end (default for repositories &lt;BR /&gt;created with Subversion 1.0 and 1.1, not the default thereafter), we  recommend not &lt;BR /&gt;storing the repository on a remote filesystem (for example,  NFS). While Berkeley DB &lt;BR /&gt;databases and log files can be stored on remote  filesystems, the Berkeley DB shared &lt;BR /&gt;region files cannot be stored on a  remote filesystem, so the repository may be safely &lt;BR /&gt;accessed by only a single  filesystem client, and not all Subversion functionality will &lt;BR /&gt;be available to  even that one client.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you are using the FSFS repository back end, then  storing the repository on a modern &lt;BR /&gt;NFS server (i.e., one that supports  locking) should be fine.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Working copies can be stored on NFS (one common  scenario is when your home directory &lt;BR /&gt;is on a NFS server). On Linux NFS  servers, due to the volume of renames used &lt;BR /&gt;internally in Subversion when  checking out files, some users have reported &lt;BR /&gt;that 'subtree checking' should  be disabled (it's enabled by default). Please see NFS &lt;BR /&gt;Howto Server Guide and  exports(5) for more information on how to disable subtree &lt;BR /&gt;checking.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;We've had at least one report of working copies getting  wedged after being accessed &lt;BR /&gt;via SMB. The server in question was running a  rather old version of Samba (2.2.7a). &lt;BR /&gt;The problem didn't recur with a newer  Samba (3.0.6).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:56:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cebulrdcis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-11-05T07:56:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: NetApp storage and backup  solutions for Subversion (SVN)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/NetApp-storage-and-backup-solutions-for-Subversion-SVN/m-p/62421#M14746</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;a good point in backing and restoring  FSFS repositories in Subversion&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;=====&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://web.mit.edu/ghudson/info/fsfs" target="_blank"&gt;http://web.mit.edu/ghudson/info/fsfs&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;*  Standard backup software&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;An FSFS repository can be backed up with  standard backup software.&lt;BR /&gt;Since old revision files don't change, incremental  backups with&lt;BR /&gt;standard backup software are efficient. (See "Note: Backups"  for&lt;BR /&gt;caveats.)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;(BDB repositories can be backed up using "svnadmin  hotcopy" and can be&lt;BR /&gt;backed up incrementally using "svnadmin dump". FSFS just  makes it&lt;BR /&gt;easier.)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;* Can split up repository across multiple  spools&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If an FSFS repository is outgrowing the filesystem it lives on,  you&lt;BR /&gt;can symlink old revisions off to another filesystem.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Note:  Recovery&lt;BR /&gt;--------------&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If a process terminates abnormally during a  read operation, it should&lt;BR /&gt;leave behind no traces in the repository, since  read operations do not&lt;BR /&gt;modify the repository in any way.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If a process  terminates abnormally during a commit operation, it will&lt;BR /&gt;leave behind a stale  transaction, which will not interfere with&lt;BR /&gt;operation and which can be removed  with a normal recursive delete&lt;BR /&gt;operation.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If a process terminates  abnormally during the final phase of a commit&lt;BR /&gt;operation, it may be holding  the write lock. The way locking is&lt;BR /&gt;currently implemented, a dead process  should not be able to hold a&lt;BR /&gt;lock, but over a remote filesystem that  guarantee may not apply.&lt;BR /&gt;Also, in the future, FSFS may have optional support  for&lt;BR /&gt;NFSv2-compatible locking which would allow for the possibility  of&lt;BR /&gt;stale locks. In either case, the write-lock file can simply be&lt;BR /&gt;removed  to unblock commits, and read operations will remain&lt;BR /&gt;unaffected.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Note:  Locking&lt;BR /&gt;-------------&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Locking is currently implemented using the  apr_file_lock() function,&lt;BR /&gt;which on Unix uses fcntl() locking, and on Windows  uses LockFile().&lt;BR /&gt;Modern remote filesystem implementations should support  these&lt;BR /&gt;operations, but may not do so perfectly, and NFSv2 servers may  not&lt;BR /&gt;support them at all.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It is possible to do exclusive locking under  basic NFSv2 using a&lt;BR /&gt;complicated dance involving link(). It's possible that  FSFS will&lt;BR /&gt;evolve to allow NFSv2-compatible locking, or perhaps just basic  O_EXCL&lt;BR /&gt;locking, as a repository configuration option.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Note:  Backups&lt;BR /&gt;-------------&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Naively copying an FSFS repository while a  commit is taking place&lt;BR /&gt;could result in an easily-repaired inconsistency in  the backed-up&lt;BR /&gt;repository. The backed-up "current" file could wind up  referring to a&lt;BR /&gt;new revision which wasn't copied, or which was only  partially&lt;BR /&gt;populated when it was copied.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The "svnadmin hotcopy" command  avoids this problem by copying the&lt;BR /&gt;"current" file before copying the revision  files. But a backup using&lt;BR /&gt;the hotcopy command isn't as efficient as a  straight incremental&lt;BR /&gt;backup. FSFS may evolve so that "svnadmin recover"  (currently a&lt;BR /&gt;no-op) knows how to recover from the inconsistency which might  result&lt;BR /&gt;from a naive backup.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Naively copying an FSFS repository might  also copy in-progress&lt;BR /&gt;transactions, which would become stale and take up  extra room until&lt;BR /&gt;manually removed. "svnadmin hotcopy" does not copy  in-progress&lt;BR /&gt;transactions from an FSFS repository, although that might need  to&lt;BR /&gt;change if Subversion starts making use of long-lived  transactions.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So, if you are using standard backup tools to make backups  of an FSFS&lt;BR /&gt;repository, configure the software to copy the "current" file  before&lt;BR /&gt;the numbered revision files, if possible, and configure it not to  copy&lt;BR /&gt;the "transactions" directory. If you can't do those things,  use&lt;BR /&gt;"svnadmin hotcopy", or be prepared to cope with the very  occasional&lt;BR /&gt;need for manual repair of the repository upon restoring it  from&lt;BR /&gt;backup.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.farside.org.uk/200703/svnadmin_recover" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.farside.org.uk/200703/svnadmin_recover&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:58:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cebulrdcis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-11-05T07:58:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: NetApp storage and backup  solutions for Subversion (SVN)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/NetApp-storage-and-backup-solutions-for-Subversion-SVN/m-p/62424#M14747</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;hmmm..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I'm wondering, maybe NetApp dont have any solutions for SVN backup and restore..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;can we or can we not leverage on snapshots technology in NetApp for SVN?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:06:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cebulrdcis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-11-26T12:06:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: NetApp storage and backup  solutions for Subversion (SVN)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/NetApp-storage-and-backup-solutions-for-Subversion-SVN/m-p/62428#M14749</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello Antoni,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just create a snap of the FSFS and backup the snaps using standard backup software or use snapvault.  You already did a good research on the effects of backing up the repository what should apply with standard backup software should apply to snapshots. Only snapshots are more efficient and you are immune to some of the pitfalls of using an ordinary backup software to backup the repository.  This goes the same for recovery.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Neil&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:29:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>neilgarcia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-11-27T09:29:37Z</dc:date>
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