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    <title>topic Re: FlexClone - clone a clone? (MSSQL) in ONTAP Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Matt,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately Snapdrive for Windows doesn't support snapshotting a Clone (even flex or lun).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So all other capabilities relying on snapshot operation (backup / restore / clone) are not possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With commands on the controller or with SnapDrive for Unix it is possible, so its "simply" a sd-win limitation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One way to to clone from a clone is to split it out on controller side. After that the lun become snapshotable. However no more space efficient.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ciao&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Michael &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Michael Schlosser &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Enterprise Infrastructure Architect &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;NetApp Deutschland GmbH &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gutenbergstraße 10 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;D-63263 Neu-Isenburg &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;+49 (0) 6102-3658-3197 Tel &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;+49 (0) 6102-3659-3188 Fax &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;+49 (0) 151-120 55 714  Mobil &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.netapp.de" target="_blank"&gt;www.netapp.de&lt;/A&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Diese e-Mail kann vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen enthalten. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese e-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese e-Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser e-Mail und ihrer Inhalte ist nicht gestattet. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended addressee or have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;NetApp Deutschland GmbH, Bretonischer Ring 6, 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: AG München HRB 113907, Geschäftsführer: Manfred Reitner (Vorsitzender), Alexander Wallner, Dr. Dierk Schindler, Volker Weisshaar, Fritz Meijaard&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:29:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>mschloss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-11-18T06:29:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>FlexClone - clone a clone? (MSSQL)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-clone-a-clone-MSSQL/m-p/80727#M18833</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi there,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm just experimenting with FlexClone and its integration with SMSQL. One of the things we will possibly need to do is to make a clone of a clone.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm trying it out, but the cloned database is greyed out as an option for cloning through the wizard.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is this something that's supported? I haven't found any conclusive documentation to answer that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Matt&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:05:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mcrossley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T07:05:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FlexClone - clone a clone? (MSSQL)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-clone-a-clone-MSSQL/m-p/80732#M18834</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't think it's supported in SMSQL, but you can make clones of clones on the command line.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I hope this response has been helpful to you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At your service,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Eugene E. Kashpureff&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A class="jive-link-email-small" href="mailto:ekashp@kashpureff.org" target="_blank"&gt;ekashp@kashpureff.org&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Fastlane NetApp Instructor and Independent Consultant&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.fastlaneus.com/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.fastlaneus.com/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenekashpureff" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenekashpureff&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(P.S. I appreciate points for helpful or correct answers.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:22:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ekashpureff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-16T23:22:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FlexClone - clone a clone? (MSSQL)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-clone-a-clone-MSSQL/m-p/80736#M18835</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Matt,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately Snapdrive for Windows doesn't support snapshotting a Clone (even flex or lun).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So all other capabilities relying on snapshot operation (backup / restore / clone) are not possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With commands on the controller or with SnapDrive for Unix it is possible, so its "simply" a sd-win limitation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One way to to clone from a clone is to split it out on controller side. After that the lun become snapshotable. However no more space efficient.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ciao&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Michael &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Michael Schlosser &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Enterprise Infrastructure Architect &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;NetApp Deutschland GmbH &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gutenbergstraße 10 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;D-63263 Neu-Isenburg &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;+49 (0) 6102-3658-3197 Tel &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;+49 (0) 6102-3659-3188 Fax &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;+49 (0) 151-120 55 714  Mobil &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.netapp.de" target="_blank"&gt;www.netapp.de&lt;/A&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Diese e-Mail kann vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen enthalten. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese e-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese e-Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser e-Mail und ihrer Inhalte ist nicht gestattet. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended addressee or have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;NetApp Deutschland GmbH, Bretonischer Ring 6, 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: AG München HRB 113907, Geschäftsführer: Manfred Reitner (Vorsitzender), Alexander Wallner, Dr. Dierk Schindler, Volker Weisshaar, Fritz Meijaard&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:29:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mschloss</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-11-18T06:29:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FlexClone - clone a clone? (MSSQL)</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.netapp.com/us/library/technical-reports/ra-0005.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.netapp.com/us/library/technical-reports/ra-0005.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:29:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rikin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-02-01T23:29:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: FlexClone - clone a clone? (MSSQL)</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/FlexClone-clone-a-clone-MSSQL/m-p/80746#M18837</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hi, welcome to the community&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It can be done but it does not mean that it should be done.&amp;nbsp; You are fast heading for the dread, unable to delete snapshot busy,LUN error.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A class="jive-link-external-small" href="https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&amp;amp;id=1010151" target="_blank"&gt;https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&amp;amp;id=1010151&lt;/A&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; Once there things can really start to snowball and you just don't need that in your life.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1).&amp;nbsp; Tell the SQL people it can not be done - only one copy is possible.&amp;nbsp; (They will learn to manage)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;or&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2).&amp;nbsp; If they SQL people really need the copy of the copy, look at the LUN clone split command.&amp;nbsp; It will start eating up your free space.&amp;nbsp; &lt;EM&gt;(You may be able to do something with SIS to pull back the space if it is an issue)&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;or&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3).&amp;nbsp; If you have a snapmirror site you could get creative but again do you need the extra work?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use a mix of all 3 methods here but I always try and get them to take option 1.&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope it helps&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bren&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 10:51:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>BrendonHiggins</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-02-02T10:51:54Z</dc:date>
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