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    <title>topic Data ONTAP Upgrade - &amp;quot;CIFS-Downtime&amp;quot; in ONTAP Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Data-ONTAP-Upgrade-quot-CIFS-Downtime-quot/m-p/100987#M20482</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;we have to do a minor upgrade (8.1.3P3 =&amp;gt; 8.1.4P7). Each controller uses several vfiler which only provide CIFS-Shares (Downtime is very bad).&amp;nbsp; The "Upgrade Plan" provides after phase "&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;software update 814P7_q_image.tgz&lt;/FONT&gt;" to terminate CIFS on the node to be taken over. After this, takeover and giveback sequences will be startet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now my questions:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Is it enough&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;to stop&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;on the controller? &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Do&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;not rather&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;be stopped&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;on every&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;vFiler&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;- &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;How long&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;is&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;not&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;available?&lt;/SPAN&gt; - &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;After &lt;/SPAN&gt;"&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;cf&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;takeover"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp; only &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;a few&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;seconds until the other controller takes over&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;? After some minutes when "cf giveback" was sent ?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;- How can this time be kept as short as possible?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Thanks.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Michael&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 05:01:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>sanadmin_stadtdo</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-06-05T05:01:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Data ONTAP Upgrade - "CIFS-Downtime"</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Data-ONTAP-Upgrade-quot-CIFS-Downtime-quot/m-p/100987#M20482</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;we have to do a minor upgrade (8.1.3P3 =&amp;gt; 8.1.4P7). Each controller uses several vfiler which only provide CIFS-Shares (Downtime is very bad).&amp;nbsp; The "Upgrade Plan" provides after phase "&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;software update 814P7_q_image.tgz&lt;/FONT&gt;" to terminate CIFS on the node to be taken over. After this, takeover and giveback sequences will be startet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now my questions:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Is it enough&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;to stop&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;on the controller? &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Do&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;not rather&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;be stopped&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;on every&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;vFiler&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;- &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;How long&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;is&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;not&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;available?&lt;/SPAN&gt; - &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;After &lt;/SPAN&gt;"&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;cf&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;takeover"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp; only &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;a few&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;seconds until the other controller takes over&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;? After some minutes when "cf giveback" was sent ?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;- How can this time be kept as short as possible?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Thanks.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Michael&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 05:01:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Data-ONTAP-Upgrade-quot-CIFS-Downtime-quot/m-p/100987#M20482</guid>
      <dc:creator>sanadmin_stadtdo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T05:01:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Data ONTAP Upgrade - "CIFS-Downtime"</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Data-ONTAP-Upgrade-quot-CIFS-Downtime-quot/m-p/101214#M20515</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Micheal,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have found with our environment it depends on the number of cifs sessions you have connected to your filer/vfiler. The failover is delayed signficantly if you have hundreds of connections as the filer will try to be nice and try to notify each connection. This results in an extended period of outage. If you don't have hundreds of cifs sessions you can probably just execute the normal cf takeover/failback commands - probably need the -f if you have active sessions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The upgrade advisor I have noticed when we have completed our upgrades also does really cater for vfilers. In our case we have a similiar setup in that the majority of cifs shares are presented from vfilers. You will need to execute: vfiler run * cifs terminate -t 0 to ensure it does all vfilers cifs services.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To answer you questions directly:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Is it enough&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;to stop&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;on the controller? Nope you need to do it on any vfiler with cifs sessions&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;Do&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;not rather&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;be stopped&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;on every&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;vFiler&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;? y you need to use the vfiler run * cifs terminate -t 0&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;- &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;How long&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;CIFS&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;is&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;not&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;available?&lt;/SPAN&gt; it is short period of time with the terminate command and how quickly you type cf takeover&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;- &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;After &lt;/SPAN&gt;"&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;cf&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;takeover"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp; only &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;a few&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;seconds until the other controller takes over&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;? After some minutes when "cf giveback" was sent? Not sure what you mean with this question.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class="short_text"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class="hps"&gt;- How can this time be kept as short as possible? By doing this it minimises the actual outage due to cifs sessions&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 00:51:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Data-ONTAP-Upgrade-quot-CIFS-Downtime-quot/m-p/101214#M20515</guid>
      <dc:creator>m11</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-02T00:51:12Z</dc:date>
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