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    <title>topic Dedupe on NetApp and disk reclaim on VMware. Odd results in ONTAP Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Dedupe-on-NetApp-and-disk-reclaim-on-VMware-Odd-results/m-p/108099#M22374</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am currently in the process of reclaiming disk space back from our NetApp FAS8020 Array running 7-mode 8.2.1.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All of our flexvols are VMware datastores using VMFS&amp;nbsp;which are all thin provisioned volumes. NONE of our datastores are presented using NFS.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;On the VMware layer we have a mixture of&amp;nbsp;VMs using&amp;nbsp;thin and thick provisioned disk, any new VMs created are&amp;nbsp;normally creating using thin provisioned disks. &amp;nbsp;Our VMware environment is ESXi 5.0.0 U3 and we also use VSC 4.2.2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This has been quite a journey for us and after a number of hurdles we are now able to see reclaim of volume space on the NetApp, this resulting in the free space returning to the aggregate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To get this all working we had to perform a few steps&amp;nbsp;provided by NetApp and VMware. If we used NFS we could&amp;nbsp;have used the&amp;nbsp;disk reclaim feature in VSC but because that only works with NFS volumes this wasn't an option for us.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;NETAPP - Enable lun set space_alloc to enabled - &lt;A href="https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&amp;amp;id=3013572" target="_blank"&gt;https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&amp;amp;id=3013572&lt;/A&gt;. This is disabled by default on any version of ONTAP.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;VMWARE - Enable BlockDelete to value 1&amp;nbsp;on each ESXi host in cluster - &lt;A href="http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&amp;amp;cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;externalId=2007427" target="_blank"&gt;http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&amp;amp;cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;externalId=2007427&lt;/A&gt;. This is disabled by default on the version of ESXi we are running.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;VMWARE - Rescan the VMFS datastores in VMware and update the VSC settings for each host. Set recommended host settings. Once performed check delete status is showing as 'supported' &lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;esxcli storage core device vaai status get -d naa - &lt;A href="http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/search.do?cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;docType=kc&amp;amp;docTypeID=DT_KB_1_1&amp;amp;externalId=2014849" target="_blank"&gt;http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/search.do?cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;docType=kc&amp;amp;docTypeID=DT_KB_1_1&amp;amp;externalId=2014849&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;VMWARE - login to ESXi host, go the /vmfs/volumes and datastore where you want to run disk reclaim and run vmkfstools -y &lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;percentage_of_deleted_blocks_to_reclaim&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;NETAPP Run sis start -s&amp;nbsp;-d -o /vol/lun - this will rerun deduplication and delete the existing checkpoints and start afresh. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;Whilst I believe we are seeing savings on the volumes we are not seeing the savings at the LUN layer in NetApp. The volume usage comes down and with dedupe on I would expect the volume usage to be lower than the datastore usage but the LUN usage doesnt go down. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="lun_vsc.jpg" style="width: 310px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/3271iFB1DE4CE77A50AEF/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="lun_vsc.jpg" alt="lun_vsc.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone know why this might be the case. Both our flexvols and LUNs are created using thin provisoned and space reserved in unchecked on the LUN.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 23:37:21 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>RANJBASSI</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-06-04T23:37:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Dedupe on NetApp and disk reclaim on VMware. Odd results</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Dedupe-on-NetApp-and-disk-reclaim-on-VMware-Odd-results/m-p/108099#M22374</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am currently in the process of reclaiming disk space back from our NetApp FAS8020 Array running 7-mode 8.2.1.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All of our flexvols are VMware datastores using VMFS&amp;nbsp;which are all thin provisioned volumes. NONE of our datastores are presented using NFS.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;On the VMware layer we have a mixture of&amp;nbsp;VMs using&amp;nbsp;thin and thick provisioned disk, any new VMs created are&amp;nbsp;normally creating using thin provisioned disks. &amp;nbsp;Our VMware environment is ESXi 5.0.0 U3 and we also use VSC 4.2.2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This has been quite a journey for us and after a number of hurdles we are now able to see reclaim of volume space on the NetApp, this resulting in the free space returning to the aggregate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To get this all working we had to perform a few steps&amp;nbsp;provided by NetApp and VMware. If we used NFS we could&amp;nbsp;have used the&amp;nbsp;disk reclaim feature in VSC but because that only works with NFS volumes this wasn't an option for us.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;NETAPP - Enable lun set space_alloc to enabled - &lt;A href="https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&amp;amp;id=3013572" target="_blank"&gt;https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&amp;amp;id=3013572&lt;/A&gt;. This is disabled by default on any version of ONTAP.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;VMWARE - Enable BlockDelete to value 1&amp;nbsp;on each ESXi host in cluster - &lt;A href="http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&amp;amp;cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;externalId=2007427" target="_blank"&gt;http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&amp;amp;cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;externalId=2007427&lt;/A&gt;. This is disabled by default on the version of ESXi we are running.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;VMWARE - Rescan the VMFS datastores in VMware and update the VSC settings for each host. Set recommended host settings. Once performed check delete status is showing as 'supported' &lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;esxcli storage core device vaai status get -d naa - &lt;A href="http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/search.do?cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;docType=kc&amp;amp;docTypeID=DT_KB_1_1&amp;amp;externalId=2014849" target="_blank"&gt;http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/search.do?cmd=displayKC&amp;amp;docType=kc&amp;amp;docTypeID=DT_KB_1_1&amp;amp;externalId=2014849&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;VMWARE - login to ESXi host, go the /vmfs/volumes and datastore where you want to run disk reclaim and run vmkfstools -y &lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;percentage_of_deleted_blocks_to_reclaim&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;NETAPP Run sis start -s&amp;nbsp;-d -o /vol/lun - this will rerun deduplication and delete the existing checkpoints and start afresh. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;Whilst I believe we are seeing savings on the volumes we are not seeing the savings at the LUN layer in NetApp. The volume usage comes down and with dedupe on I would expect the volume usage to be lower than the datastore usage but the LUN usage doesnt go down. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="lun_vsc.jpg" style="width: 310px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.netapp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/3271iFB1DE4CE77A50AEF/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="lun_vsc.jpg" alt="lun_vsc.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone know why this might be the case. Both our flexvols and LUNs are created using thin provisoned and space reserved in unchecked on the LUN.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 23:37:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Dedupe-on-NetApp-and-disk-reclaim-on-VMware-Odd-results/m-p/108099#M22374</guid>
      <dc:creator>RANJBASSI</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-04T23:37:21Z</dc:date>
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