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    <title>topic Re: Volume SnapMirror very slow - QSM &amp;amp; SV very fast in comparison in ONTAP Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;As you might know, VSM (Volume SnapMirror) is done at block level. QSM (Qtree SnapMirror) is done at inode level (folder/file). Even Snapvault uses Qtree concept.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the data in your volume (Luns/ normal NAS Files/ Multiple Qtrees)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is deduplication enabled on source ?&lt;BR /&gt;Is replication throttle enabled ? Try to disable it and then initialize VSM (depending on your business hours). Did you try VSM during throttle ON timings ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try not to update VSM using existing snapshot and go for a fresh initialize. Useful if aggregates are recently converted from 32 to 64 bit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wait for the baseline to complete.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did you upgrade any one of the nodes recently ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you using same interfaces/vif for VSM and QSM ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 11:40:29 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>naren_s</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-03-02T11:40:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Volume SnapMirror very slow - QSM &amp; SV very fast in comparison</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Volume-SnapMirror-very-slow-QSM-amp-SV-very-fast-in-comparison/m-p/116361#M24826</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey all,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lately we've been running into the problem that Volume SnapMirrors on our 7-Mode 8040 (8.2.4P1) are veeery slow.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In comparison, qtree SnapMirrors and SnapVault from the same source volumes run as fast as expected.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is even when transferring within the same filer from one aggr to another one.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example: VSM from aggr1 to aggr2 on same Filer: transfers with around 1 MB/s and transfers (no matter if initializes or updates) take ages to complete.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From the same source volume in aggr1 to same dest volume in aggr2 QSM &amp;amp; SV run with around 100 MB/s without any issues, also no matter if initialize or update is running.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any ideas from the community, maybe some bug we're hitting (though I found nothing in that regards).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Support ticket is also already opened.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 21:57:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>marcel_juhnke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-04T21:57:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Volume SnapMirror very slow - QSM &amp; SV very fast in comparison</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Volume-SnapMirror-very-slow-QSM-amp-SV-very-fast-in-comparison/m-p/116550#M24881</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As you might know, VSM (Volume SnapMirror) is done at block level. QSM (Qtree SnapMirror) is done at inode level (folder/file). Even Snapvault uses Qtree concept.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the data in your volume (Luns/ normal NAS Files/ Multiple Qtrees)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is deduplication enabled on source ?&lt;BR /&gt;Is replication throttle enabled ? Try to disable it and then initialize VSM (depending on your business hours). Did you try VSM during throttle ON timings ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try not to update VSM using existing snapshot and go for a fresh initialize. Useful if aggregates are recently converted from 32 to 64 bit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wait for the baseline to complete.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did you upgrade any one of the nodes recently ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you using same interfaces/vif for VSM and QSM ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 11:40:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Volume-SnapMirror-very-slow-QSM-amp-SV-very-fast-in-comparison/m-p/116550#M24881</guid>
      <dc:creator>naren_s</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-02T11:40:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Volume SnapMirror very slow - QSM &amp; SV very fast in comparison</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Volume-SnapMirror-very-slow-QSM-amp-SV-very-fast-in-comparison/m-p/116551#M24882</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, thanks for your reply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm well aware of the differences between VSM &amp;amp; QSM/SV, that's why I don't really get why VSM is so much slower here then QSM/SV. It's not the initial block/inode change computation, but the actual transfer that's very slow.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the data in your volume (Luns/ normal NAS Files/ Multiple Qtrees&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Doesn't matter, affects every Volume we have (VMware NFS datastore, Volumes with Exchange iSCSI LUNs, but only a single qtree max.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is deduplication enabled on source ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, dedupe is enabled, but not running during the transfer. But this issue also affects Volumes for&amp;nbsp;which dedupe was never enabled.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is replication throttle enabled ? Try to disable it and then initialize VSM (depending on your business hours). Did you try VSM during throttle ON timings ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No replication throttle set, global setting is also disabled&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try not to update VSM using existing snapshot and go for a fresh initialize. Useful if aggregates are recently converted from 32 to 64 bit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Only 64-Bit aggr from the start, Filer is only a year old. The same issue with updates &amp;amp; initializes happens, no difference&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wait for the baseline to complete.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did you upgrade any one of the nodes recently ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We did upgrade from 8.2.2P1 to 8.2.4P1 a month ago, but the issue already started before that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you using same interfaces/vif for VSM and QSM ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Interface doesn't matter, as slow VSM but fast QSM also happens within the same filer from one aggregate to another. But outbound they use the same ifgrp.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:30:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Volume-SnapMirror-very-slow-QSM-amp-SV-very-fast-in-comparison/m-p/116551#M24882</guid>
      <dc:creator>marcel_juhnke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-02T12:30:42Z</dc:date>
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