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    <title>topic Re: Snapshot &amp;amp; SnapMirror/SnapVault in ONTAP Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshot-amp-SnapMirror-SnapVault/m-p/157098#M35612</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To be honest, there is no perfect RPO/RTO, it may differ from company to company. You have thought of a very sound protection strategy in terms of snapshot retention and I will take it if I have plenty of space.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Only suggestion probably would be around Hourly, which seems excessive to me, again I have no idea about your business, is it 24/7 shop or 9-5 shop, and what's the rate of change of data for different volumes. So, there could be number of questions here. But, in general (our's is:9-5 shop), we keep '10' hourly, from 8am to 6pm every hour on Production, rest all (daily/weekly/monthy) looks fine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I need to recover a file that’s past the prod retention, is it simple to recover if from DR? If so then I think I’ll lower my prod retention.&lt;BR /&gt;Yes, it's simple (For SAN- You can flexclone and mount it and for NAS - simply mount or use CIFS to use the previous-version to recover.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 20:45:39 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Ontapforrum</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-06-18T20:45:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Snapshot &amp; SnapMirror/SnapVault</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshot-amp-SnapMirror-SnapVault/m-p/157097#M35611</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm pretty new to NetApp and I'm creating a new Snapshot policy on my primary cluster (AFF) and SnapMirror/SnapVault relationships on my DR cluster (FAS). Right now we don't have an official RPO/RTO but I need to get something going. Assuming that we have plenty of space available, does this seem good or maybe a bit excessive?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Prod Snapshots&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SSD – 24 hourly, 7 daily, 2 weekly&lt;BR /&gt;DR SnapMirror/SnapVault&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SAS – 168 hourly (7 days)&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;NL-SAS – 91 daily (13 weeks), 52 weekly (1 year), 36 monthly (3 years)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I need to recover a file that’s past the prod retention, is it simple to recover if from DR? If so then I think I’ll lower my prod retention.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 11:04:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshot-amp-SnapMirror-SnapVault/m-p/157097#M35611</guid>
      <dc:creator>optimus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-04T11:04:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapshot &amp; SnapMirror/SnapVault</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshot-amp-SnapMirror-SnapVault/m-p/157098#M35612</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To be honest, there is no perfect RPO/RTO, it may differ from company to company. You have thought of a very sound protection strategy in terms of snapshot retention and I will take it if I have plenty of space.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Only suggestion probably would be around Hourly, which seems excessive to me, again I have no idea about your business, is it 24/7 shop or 9-5 shop, and what's the rate of change of data for different volumes. So, there could be number of questions here. But, in general (our's is:9-5 shop), we keep '10' hourly, from 8am to 6pm every hour on Production, rest all (daily/weekly/monthy) looks fine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I need to recover a file that’s past the prod retention, is it simple to recover if from DR? If so then I think I’ll lower my prod retention.&lt;BR /&gt;Yes, it's simple (For SAN- You can flexclone and mount it and for NAS - simply mount or use CIFS to use the previous-version to recover.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 20:45:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshot-amp-SnapMirror-SnapVault/m-p/157098#M35612</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ontapforrum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-18T20:45:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapshot &amp; SnapMirror/SnapVault</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshot-amp-SnapMirror-SnapVault/m-p/157102#M35613</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think it should looked the other way around. in a identical only-2-copy system, the local should have as many recent snapshots as you can, and the remote should be as frequent replication as possible + any other required sanpshots for retention. as an example:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Snap&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Local (Mainly RTO) &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Remote (RPO and extra RTO)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hourly&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 168 (7 days)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 48 (2 days)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Daily&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 60 (2 months)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 120 (4 months)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Monthly&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 24 (2 years)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 84 (7 years)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Total&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 252&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 252&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now for the "why?": Remember that you only need the remote in case of physical/RAID/AGGR-level-logical-damage to the local storage which likely to be noticed immediately (and anyway the mirroring and the snapshot ageing will likely to stop working).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As for the local, this will be the fastest (RTO) way to restore in case of an application/vol-level-logical-damage, hence you will want here as many snapshots you can to choose from to find the one closest to the corruption. Something like: 168 hourly, 60 daily, and 24 monthly.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So going back to the remote, here you want the shortest period from the last replication (RPO) possible on that system. Now after covering the RPO requirement (e.g the replication itself)- I'll put there all the rest of the snapshots (to maximum RTO) that I didn't have space for on the local system. e.g if I'm required 7 years of backups (which many industries now default to,&amp;nbsp; but very unlikely to ever be used) - so that's 84 monthly snapshots (preferable snap per month, not a year - as the deletion process for yearly snapshot can be hard on the system). Some 48 hourly ones (just in the very unlikely case where low-level-logical damage did ended-up causing file/vol-level-logical damage as well) then fill the rest of the 252~&amp;nbsp; snapshots (always leaving some spare to manual and snapmirror base snapshots) with 120 daily ones.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Gidi&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2020 13:57:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Snapshot-amp-SnapMirror-SnapVault/m-p/157102#M35613</guid>
      <dc:creator>GidonMarcus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-19T13:57:02Z</dc:date>
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