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inodes exhausted on snapmirror volume

kodiak_f — Wed, 04 Jun 2025 10:41:18 GMT

Hi Folks,

I just worked through the process of growing the inodes on a volume that was quite close to running out (volume modify -files), this reflects on the primary volume but not the DR copy on our DR cluster, which is a RO volume. Since I can't modify that volume, I tried doing an update operation in OnCommand and that was successful but the "total files for user visible data" field does not reflect the new max on the RO DR copy after the update.

What am I missing here?

Thanks!

Re: inodes exhausted on snapmirror volume

GidonMarcus — Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:02:58 GMT

from:

https://kb.netapp.com/Advice_and_Troubleshooting/Data_Protection_and_Security/SnapMirror/How_and_when_to_increase_inodes_in_a_destination_volume_of_a_SnapMirror_Type-XDP_relationship

When inodes are increased automatically on a SnapMirror destination?

SnapMirror Type-XDP destination volumes increase their inode count when the SnapMirror source volume used inode count is greater than the total inode count of the SnapMirror destination volume
When this occurs, the next SnapMirror update will increase the destination volume max inode count to match that of the source max inode count

Re: inodes exhausted on snapmirror volume

kodiak_f — Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:12:04 GMT

Thanks very much for the reply @GidonMarcus !

That is actually super annoying because that means that we'll get unavoidable errors in ActiveIQ Unified Manager that don't have a resolution action - SAD!

NetApp should fix this behavior. It's bad enough that inode allocations aren't dynamic and that they are the same defaults for a 1TB, 10TB, or 100TB volume 😞

Needlessly fraught and overly complicated I'd have to say in comparison to something like Isilon.

Re: inodes exhausted on snapmirror volume

GidonMarcus — Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:06:12 GMT

To be honest. I have no idea why they don't manage it within the ONTAP code (for example with the volume autosize function). worth asking the account manager/partner (if you have) about existing/new RFE.

Iv'e found that they did created a few pages in the following doc about how to use OCUM+WFA to automate it https://www.netapp.com/pdf.html?item=/media/19932-tr-4585.pdf

Re: inodes exhausted on snapmirror volume

paul_stejskal — Thu, 17 Dec 2020 16:33:42 GMT

As a suggestion, if you're ever in a position that you have to increase maxfiles, I'd recommend talking to your account team about whether your workload would fit into a FlexGroup.

Re: inodes exhausted on snapmirror volume

parisi — Thu, 17 Dec 2020 22:31:58 GMT

AIQ UM 9.8 now has what's called "Fix its" - meaning, you'll see notices of issues on the dashboard with the option to fix them.

This includes "out of inodes":

When you click "Fix it":

In my case, since I am very close to full on the inodes, it registers "failed" for the action, even though it increased the inodes. That's because 2% didn't get me below the 90% threshold:

ontap9-tme-8040::> vol show -vserver DEMO -volume FG_SM_400G -fields files,files-used
vserver volume files files-used
------- ---------- -------- ----------
DEMO FG_SM_400G 13107152 13063024

ontap9-tme-8040::> vol show -vserver DEMO -volume FG_SM_400G -fields files,files-used
vserver volume files files-used
------- ---------- -------- ----------
DEMO FG_SM_400G 13369268 13063026

But in most cases, "Fix It" would be done before you ran out of files (warnings kick in at 80%).

12/17/2020 17:20:35 ontap9-tme-8040-01
ERROR wafl.vol.runningOutOfInodes: The file system on Volume FG_SM_400G__0001@vserver:7e3cc08e-d9b3-11e6-85e2-00a0986b1210 is using 80 percent or more of the files that can be contained on the volume.

In my case, I'd need to go to the CLI or GUI to resolve this manually.

We cover AIQ UM 9.8 in this podcast:

https://community.netapp.com/t5/Tech-ONTAP-Podcast-Episodes/Tech-ONTAP-Podcast-Episode-271-NetApp-Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-9-8-Updates/ba-p/161706