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    <title>topic Re: Raid group size for 1TB drives? in ONTAP Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are a number of considerations in this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;First, we should operate under the assumption that you are using Data OnTap 7.x.&amp;nbsp; Within 7.x SATA RAID groups are limited to 16 disks.&amp;nbsp; It is generally accepted that SATA disks are put in to 14 disk aggregates, thus this would yield an aggregate with about 8.29TB usable (with a standard 5% snap reserve).&amp;nbsp; If you go the to max, 16 disks, you will get 9.68TB usable (again with the standard 5% snap reserve).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Second, you now need to determine if you are willing to use a second (smaller) raid group to take your total aggregate size closer to the 16TB limit.&amp;nbsp; With that said the max that you will get from an aggregate using 19 data disks is going to ~15.732TB raw (or about ~13.13TB usable with 5% snap reserve).&amp;nbsp; Note, that I have switched terminology here.&amp;nbsp; I do this for good reason, in my particular environment I have never seen the benefit of trying to get out to the logical limits so I don't have the exact numbers (note that the ~ is in front of calculated numbers, the others are from one of my systems).&amp;nbsp; You could end up a RAID of 16 disks, and then one with 7 disks (or 14 and 9 depending on you RAID group size).&amp;nbsp; Either way you go you are going to end up with 19 data and 4 parity for a total of 23 disks, this is shy of the 28 or 32 total disks that you would have from two normally created RAID groups of 14 and 16 disks (respectively).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On a small scale this may night seem that daunting, but as you scale your environment up, you are using more parity disks, thus decreasing the total size of the system.&amp;nbsp; If we extrapolate the numbers out further, and say look at what two loops (168x 1TB disks) would get you,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- With traditional 14 disk aggregates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; - 12 Aggregates (zero drives spare)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 99.48 usable TB @8.29TB each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- With traditional 16 disk aggregates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 10 Aggregates (8 drives spare)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 99.68 usable TB @9.68TB each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- With 23 disk aggregates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 7 Aggregates ( 7 drives spare)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 91.91 usable TB @13.13TB each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ultimately the 16 disk aggregates becomes the most equitable to use.&amp;nbsp; This yields the largest number of usable TB and spare drives.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In Data OnTap 8.0 this changes dramatically, and depending on the hardware that you are running you can see up to 100TB aggregates (FAS6080).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope that this helps rather that confuses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Normal disclaimers apply, as to each environment being configured differently, and so on and so forth.&amp;nbsp; This is not a definitive guide, if it was you would have gotten it from a KB on the NOW site.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Message was edited by: stratify_tc
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    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:27:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Raid group size for 1TB drives?</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Raid-group-size-for-1TB-drives/m-p/28941#M6702</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the recommened RG s&lt;SPAN style="background-color: #f8fafd;"&gt;ize for 1 TB drives when you want to maximize aggr capacity over performance?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
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      <title>Re: Raid group size for 1TB drives?</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/ONTAP-Discussions/Raid-group-size-for-1TB-drives/m-p/28946#M6705</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are a number of considerations in this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;First, we should operate under the assumption that you are using Data OnTap 7.x.&amp;nbsp; Within 7.x SATA RAID groups are limited to 16 disks.&amp;nbsp; It is generally accepted that SATA disks are put in to 14 disk aggregates, thus this would yield an aggregate with about 8.29TB usable (with a standard 5% snap reserve).&amp;nbsp; If you go the to max, 16 disks, you will get 9.68TB usable (again with the standard 5% snap reserve).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Second, you now need to determine if you are willing to use a second (smaller) raid group to take your total aggregate size closer to the 16TB limit.&amp;nbsp; With that said the max that you will get from an aggregate using 19 data disks is going to ~15.732TB raw (or about ~13.13TB usable with 5% snap reserve).&amp;nbsp; Note, that I have switched terminology here.&amp;nbsp; I do this for good reason, in my particular environment I have never seen the benefit of trying to get out to the logical limits so I don't have the exact numbers (note that the ~ is in front of calculated numbers, the others are from one of my systems).&amp;nbsp; You could end up a RAID of 16 disks, and then one with 7 disks (or 14 and 9 depending on you RAID group size).&amp;nbsp; Either way you go you are going to end up with 19 data and 4 parity for a total of 23 disks, this is shy of the 28 or 32 total disks that you would have from two normally created RAID groups of 14 and 16 disks (respectively).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On a small scale this may night seem that daunting, but as you scale your environment up, you are using more parity disks, thus decreasing the total size of the system.&amp;nbsp; If we extrapolate the numbers out further, and say look at what two loops (168x 1TB disks) would get you,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- With traditional 14 disk aggregates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; - 12 Aggregates (zero drives spare)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 99.48 usable TB @8.29TB each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- With traditional 16 disk aggregates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 10 Aggregates (8 drives spare)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 99.68 usable TB @9.68TB each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- With 23 disk aggregates:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 7 Aggregates ( 7 drives spare)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; 91.91 usable TB @13.13TB each&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ultimately the 16 disk aggregates becomes the most equitable to use.&amp;nbsp; This yields the largest number of usable TB and spare drives.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In Data OnTap 8.0 this changes dramatically, and depending on the hardware that you are running you can see up to 100TB aggregates (FAS6080).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope that this helps rather that confuses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Normal disclaimers apply, as to each environment being configured differently, and so on and so forth.&amp;nbsp; This is not a definitive guide, if it was you would have gotten it from a KB on the NOW site.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Message was edited by: stratify_tc
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      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:27:49 GMT</pubDate>
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