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Windows HyperV and CSV

RICCO4400 — Thu, 05 Jun 2025 06:43:49 GMT

Hello

Our team build yesterday our first Microsoft HyperV solution

Base on FAS2040 Ontap version 8.0.2 and 4 HP servers in one cluster

We follow TR july 2011 (HyperV and NetApp)

So all the LUN made are Window2008 (we don't use snapdrive), igroup type Windows

After start a VM store in CSV, a few minutes later, this VM Hang

Sector 0 Partition crash

With Microsoft support help ,we were able to rewrite it, but now Microsoft support says

May be it's our DSM MPIO or wrong LUN type that is the culprit

They saw some problem with scsi reservation lock ?????

Anyone here has already heard about this?

If LUN type is wrong, the main issue possible will be misalignment and performance issue

But can this break Windows partition table ?

I know that Microsoft CVS is a bit tricky

Your help will be appreciate

Regards

Windows HyperV and CSV

thomas_glodde — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:41:02 GMT

Are you using NetApp MPIO or Windows native MPIO?

Have you enabled ALUA on the igroups?

You have a GPT partition style and only one big primary partition on it?

You have any other troubles with that cluster, can you browse the C:\ClusterStorage folders fine from all nodes?

Windows HyperV and CSV

RICCO4400 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:54:16 GMT

We installed NetApp MPIO, but remove it for using only MS Native MPIO

As it's iSCSI LUN we don't enable ALUA

Yes it's on big 800 GB GPT partition

And we were able to browse the clusterstorage from all nodes

the big problem appeared a few minutes after starting VMs stored in c:\clusterstorage

according Microsoft support, they suspected scsi reservation or lock issues

My question ,what is the impact of a bad LUN type choice?

As we create WIndow2008 type

We use the last OnCommand System Manager (version 2.0R1), and funny thing, when creating LUN only Windows2008 is available

No HyperV options (like with System Manager 1.1 ou CLI)

But as the TR-3702 says Windows2008 is the right choice (we do not use SnapDrive)

Windows HyperV and CSV

thomas_glodde — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:09:23 GMT

as far as i know windows_gpt, windows_2008 and hyper_v are the exact same LUN type, its just for the purpose of having proper reporting how many windows 2008 or how many hyper-v LUNs the customers have and so on.

i prefer microsoft native over dsm, so you fixed that already, besides alua no on iscsi is correct as well. As for reservation conflicts and so on, have you guys properly set up the windows cluster? you are using a quorum i assume and you have NOT disabled Client for Microsoft Netorks on the cluster network interfaces?

Besides when using iscsi i think its recommended to go with target portal groups. Shouldnt case stale scsi reservations tho i guess.

Windows HyperV and CSV

RICCO4400 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:19:07 GMT

Thomas , again thanks for your very fast reply

We're going to follow your advices, for Native MPIO

I work for SAN & virtualisation team (VMware)

It's the firt time that Windows team implements HyperV ,and they try to say "SAN problem" 🙂

We need to double check Cluster config

As one guy disable for exemple IPV6 on Windows network inferface, a second said no, you must keep IPV6

I'm not a Windows girl 🙂

I'd like to be sure it's not NetApp SAN misconfiguration

Windows HyperV and CSV

thomas_glodde — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:51:46 GMT

Just fyi, unlike in previos 2000 and 2003 clusters you MUST keep IPv6 enabled and you MUST keep Client for Microsoft Network enabled as CIFS/SMB plays an important role in a Hyper-V cluster 🙂