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    <title>topic Re: Millions of files in a single directory in Network and Storage Protocols</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Network-and-Storage-Protocols/Millions-of-files-in-a-single-directory/m-p/38095#M3502</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;You may get some advantage to putting it on a NetApp,&amp;nbsp; but these kind of environments are a challenge for any application that needs to traverse the directory and pull metadata information (like all backups do).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are some thoughts on where/how NetApp may be able to help.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o NetApp snapshots are not only space efficient, but performance neutral, so for most kinds of basic restores, you can keep a good number of point in time copies for recovery purposes without having to rely on dump/restore&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o You can use NetBackup with NetApp.&amp;nbsp; NetApp has worked with Veritas/Symmantec for years.&amp;nbsp; NDMP is the most popular way to do it.&amp;nbsp; But with directories with lots of files dumps to tape will still take a long time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o One solution customers have used is to use volume snapmirror which is a physical replication technology for NetApp to replicate that volume to either another set of disks (i.e. different aggregate) on the same controller or to a volume on a different controller.&amp;nbsp; Because it is a physical copy vs a logical copy the # of files doesn't matter.&amp;nbsp; If you still require tape, then you can run that backup on the 2nd copy knowing that you have a DR copy on a 2nd set of disks that can be backed up quickly and thus the backup to tape time is less critical.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o Alternatively you can rely on the local snapshots as your basic recovery, then allow the backup a longer time to run.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o You can use SnapMirror to Tape as your backup solution.&amp;nbsp; This does a full backup and is a physical copy so the # of files don't matter.&amp;nbsp; The downside is there is no incremental support for this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The best solution is to break up those directories into multiple directories, but some applications don't allow that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:48:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>adamfox</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-02-16T15:48:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Millions of files in a single directory</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Network-and-Storage-Protocols/Millions-of-files-in-a-single-directory/m-p/38089#M3501</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anybody have to deal with an application that write tons of files to a single directory?&amp;nbsp; Currently I have a shared folder on my Windows file server that has 1.8 million files in it.&amp;nbsp; They are all small and take up less than 100GB, but backing up and working with the folder is nearly impossible.&amp;nbsp; Would moving this to a CIFS share on my NetApp 3040 give me any advantages?&amp;nbsp; How would I back this up then?&amp;nbsp; We don't have a second appliance to copy to and I'm assuming you can't use NetBackup against the NetApp.&amp;nbsp; I'm just wondering if the NetApp would be more efficient trying to deal with all these files.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for any ideas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:18:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>BriggsCorp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T07:18:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Millions of files in a single directory</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Network-and-Storage-Protocols/Millions-of-files-in-a-single-directory/m-p/38095#M3502</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;You may get some advantage to putting it on a NetApp,&amp;nbsp; but these kind of environments are a challenge for any application that needs to traverse the directory and pull metadata information (like all backups do).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are some thoughts on where/how NetApp may be able to help.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o NetApp snapshots are not only space efficient, but performance neutral, so for most kinds of basic restores, you can keep a good number of point in time copies for recovery purposes without having to rely on dump/restore&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o You can use NetBackup with NetApp.&amp;nbsp; NetApp has worked with Veritas/Symmantec for years.&amp;nbsp; NDMP is the most popular way to do it.&amp;nbsp; But with directories with lots of files dumps to tape will still take a long time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o One solution customers have used is to use volume snapmirror which is a physical replication technology for NetApp to replicate that volume to either another set of disks (i.e. different aggregate) on the same controller or to a volume on a different controller.&amp;nbsp; Because it is a physical copy vs a logical copy the # of files doesn't matter.&amp;nbsp; If you still require tape, then you can run that backup on the 2nd copy knowing that you have a DR copy on a 2nd set of disks that can be backed up quickly and thus the backup to tape time is less critical.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o Alternatively you can rely on the local snapshots as your basic recovery, then allow the backup a longer time to run.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;o You can use SnapMirror to Tape as your backup solution.&amp;nbsp; This does a full backup and is a physical copy so the # of files don't matter.&amp;nbsp; The downside is there is no incremental support for this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The best solution is to break up those directories into multiple directories, but some applications don't allow that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:48:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Network-and-Storage-Protocols/Millions-of-files-in-a-single-directory/m-p/38095#M3502</guid>
      <dc:creator>adamfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-02-16T15:48:23Z</dc:date>
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