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    <title>topic dfm physical summary - the numbers just don't add up in Active IQ Unified Manager Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/dfm-physical-summary-the-numbers-just-don-t-add-up/m-p/56589#M11745</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;This feature of Operations Manager has vexed me for a long while so its open season for the smart people out there to help me out &lt;SPAN __jive_emoticon_name="happy" __jive_macro_name="emoticon" class="jive_macro jive_emote" src="https://community.netapp.com/4.0.8/images/emoticons/happy.gif"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm going to keep this example simple and concentrate on the spare disk capacity reported on one system however I get equally baffling numbers for data and parity capacity count:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From the Operations Manager server run 'dfm physical summary &amp;lt;hostname&amp;gt;'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I get the following output relating to spare disks:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: courier new,courier;"&gt;Spare Disks:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&lt;BR /&gt;Spare Space:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1174841327616&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I look at the sysconfig -r output from the Filers console (I'm using 600GB FC drives here):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: courier new,courier;"&gt;Spare disks&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: courier new,courier;"&gt;RAID Disk&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Device&amp;nbsp; HA&amp;nbsp; SHELF BAY CHAN Pool Type&amp;nbsp; RPM&amp;nbsp; Used (MB/blks)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Phys (MB/blks)&lt;BR /&gt;---------&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ------&amp;nbsp; ------------- ---- ---- ---- ----- --------------&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; --------------&lt;BR /&gt;Spare disks for block or zoned checksum traditional volumes or aggregates&lt;BR /&gt;spare&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a.61&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 13&amp;nbsp; FC:A&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; FCAL 15000 560000/1146880000 560208/1147307688 &lt;BR /&gt;spare&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a.77&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 4&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 13&amp;nbsp; FC:A&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; FCAL 15000 560000/1146880000 560208/1147307688&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Operations Manager is reported in KB and the ONTAP output in MB.&amp;nbsp; Assuming 1024 is used for MB to KB conversion then the two figures on interest are:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Raw: 560208*1024*2 (Physical size x MB to KB x number of disks) = 1147305984&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Useable (right sized): 560000*1024*2 (Used size x MB to KB x number of disks) = 1146880000&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Neither of these two results match the spare space output reported by Operations Manager.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Any know how OM is deriving its answer and why is it different from ONTAP?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Forgot to add some details: &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;OM version 3.8.1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;ONTAP version 7.3.3&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:14:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>RichardSopp</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-06-05T07:14:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>dfm physical summary - the numbers just don't add up</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/dfm-physical-summary-the-numbers-just-don-t-add-up/m-p/56589#M11745</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;This feature of Operations Manager has vexed me for a long while so its open season for the smart people out there to help me out &lt;SPAN __jive_emoticon_name="happy" __jive_macro_name="emoticon" class="jive_macro jive_emote" src="https://community.netapp.com/4.0.8/images/emoticons/happy.gif"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm going to keep this example simple and concentrate on the spare disk capacity reported on one system however I get equally baffling numbers for data and parity capacity count:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From the Operations Manager server run 'dfm physical summary &amp;lt;hostname&amp;gt;'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I get the following output relating to spare disks:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: courier new,courier;"&gt;Spare Disks:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&lt;BR /&gt;Spare Space:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1174841327616&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I look at the sysconfig -r output from the Filers console (I'm using 600GB FC drives here):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: courier new,courier;"&gt;Spare disks&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: courier new,courier;"&gt;RAID Disk&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Device&amp;nbsp; HA&amp;nbsp; SHELF BAY CHAN Pool Type&amp;nbsp; RPM&amp;nbsp; Used (MB/blks)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Phys (MB/blks)&lt;BR /&gt;---------&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ------&amp;nbsp; ------------- ---- ---- ---- ----- --------------&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; --------------&lt;BR /&gt;Spare disks for block or zoned checksum traditional volumes or aggregates&lt;BR /&gt;spare&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a.61&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 13&amp;nbsp; FC:A&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; FCAL 15000 560000/1146880000 560208/1147307688 &lt;BR /&gt;spare&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a.77&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 4&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 13&amp;nbsp; FC:A&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; FCAL 15000 560000/1146880000 560208/1147307688&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Operations Manager is reported in KB and the ONTAP output in MB.&amp;nbsp; Assuming 1024 is used for MB to KB conversion then the two figures on interest are:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Raw: 560208*1024*2 (Physical size x MB to KB x number of disks) = 1147305984&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Useable (right sized): 560000*1024*2 (Used size x MB to KB x number of disks) = 1146880000&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Neither of these two results match the spare space output reported by Operations Manager.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Any know how OM is deriving its answer and why is it different from ONTAP?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Forgot to add some details: &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;OM version 3.8.1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;ONTAP version 7.3.3&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:14:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/dfm-physical-summary-the-numbers-just-don-t-add-up/m-p/56589#M11745</guid>
      <dc:creator>RichardSopp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T07:14:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dfm physical summary - the numbers just don't add up</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/dfm-physical-summary-the-numbers-just-don-t-add-up/m-p/56595#M11746</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;AFAIK, The spare disk space reported as part of 'dfm physical summary' is the total spare space available in Bytes and not in KB. Also its in sync with what ONTAP shows, lemme explain as to how does it calculate by taking your example:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;DFM Spare space reporting = (totalsize in MB obtained from ontap) * 1024 * 1024.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;From your eg:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;RAID&amp;nbsp; Disk&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Device&amp;nbsp; HA&amp;nbsp; SHELF BAY CHAN Pool Type&amp;nbsp; RPM&amp;nbsp; Used&amp;nbsp; (MB/blks)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Phys (MB/blks)&lt;BR /&gt;---------&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ------&amp;nbsp; -------------&amp;nbsp; ---- ---- ----&amp;nbsp; ----- --------------&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; --------------&lt;BR /&gt;Spare disks&amp;nbsp; for block or zoned&amp;nbsp; checksum traditional volumes or aggregates&lt;BR /&gt;spare&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a.61&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 13&amp;nbsp; FC:A&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; FCAL 15000 560000/1146880000&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt; 560208&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;/1147307688 &lt;BR /&gt;spare&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a.77&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0a&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 4&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 13&amp;nbsp; FC:A&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; FCAL 15000 560000/1146880000&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt; 560208&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;/1147307688&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;Since there are 2 spare disks the total available spare physical space =&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt; 560208 &lt;/SPAN&gt;+&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt; 560208 &lt;/SPAN&gt;= 1120416&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;Applying this in our DFM calculation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;DFM Spare space reporting = (totalsize in MB obtained from ontap) *&amp;nbsp; 1024 * 1024.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; =&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (&lt;STRONG&gt;1120416) * 1024 * 1024&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; =&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1174841327616&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;which is same as reported in:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;Spare Disks:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&lt;BR /&gt;Spare&amp;nbsp; Space:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1174841327616&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Any know how OM is&amp;nbsp; deriving its answer and why is it different from ONTAP?&lt;P style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; As explained above. Its same as ONTAP.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="min-height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;Guess you didn't know it was reported in Bytes and hence you calculated in KBs...&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;-Sanjyoth&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:04:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/dfm-physical-summary-the-numbers-just-don-t-add-up/m-p/56595#M11746</guid>
      <dc:creator>sanjyoth</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-06-06T17:04:40Z</dc:date>
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