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    <title>topic Re: Protection Manager - SnapVault Secondary is not large enough in Active IQ Unified Manager Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Adaik.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My source volume is dedup enabled.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Later I log a case with NetApp and found out that, I need to thin provision my destination and take advantage of PM Auto Provisioning.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is some formula that built within PM that caused the size to be extremely huge, which it take into consideration the growth rate for source volume. With below formula.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ProjSecSz = 1.1 * max[(2.0 * PriCurUsedSz), (1.2 * PriVolTotalSz)]&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That ' s what I missed and caused me to expand the dest volume each time! I wish NetApp share the documentation rather than customer find out like me by log in a case.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Captured explanation from NetApp Engineer:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;PriCurUsedSz&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is the Active File System Used Size of the Primary Volume.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;PriVolTotalSz&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is the Primary Volume Total Size.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1.1&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is a fixed, 10% margin added to volumes.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2.0&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is determined by the global, hidden option &lt;STRONG&gt;dpSrcVolUsedPct&lt;/STRONG&gt;. By default it is set to 200% in order to provide sufficient overwrite reserve for LUN containing volumes.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1.2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is determined by the global, hidden option &lt;STRONG&gt;dpSrcVolTotalPct&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; By default it is set to 120% in order to estimate Projected Size&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; roughly the same size (initially) as in "classic" secondary&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; provisioning.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note: With the &lt;STRONG&gt;Volume Fan-In&lt;/STRONG&gt; feature enabled (i.e., &lt;STRONG&gt;dpMaxFanInRatio&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;gt; 1), the primary volume sizes are replaced by the sum of all volumes fanning into the secondary volume. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Btw, I need to specify my setup:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Initially, I set the dpMaxFanInRatio = 8 so that I can put multiple source volume into a Dataset, the above cause me to drop this finally and right now I am having a 1 to 1 relationship for my SnapVault (Backup).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:43:55 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>leongkoklow</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-03T06:43:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Protection Manager - SnapVault Secondary is not large enough</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/Protection-Manager-SnapVault-Secondary-is-not-large-enough/m-p/18462#M3892</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am performing the B2D with onCommand 5 's Protection Manager whereby I hit with this scenerio.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Source volume : 1.4TB&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Destination volume 10.0 TB&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But, when I intend to add the 1.4TB volume , PM keep prompting error msg destination is not large enough shown in KBytes&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have any of you face this before and what the work around. I am pretty sure the destination has plenty of space to accommodate the source volume for SV.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;FYI:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have enable the dynamic sizing of secondary volume.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;dpDynamicSecondarySizing&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Enabled&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 06:38:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>leongkoklow</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T06:38:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Protection Manager - SnapVault Secondary is not large enough</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/Protection-Manager-SnapVault-Secondary-is-not-large-enough/m-p/18467#M3893</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is your source volume dedupe enabled ? If so can you get the output of the following cli ? dfm detail &amp;lt;volumename-or-id&amp;gt; | grep -i dedup or | findstr /i dedup if the DFM server is on windows.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;adai&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:08:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>adaikkap</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-12-31T16:08:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Protection Manager - SnapVault Secondary is not large enough</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/Protection-Manager-SnapVault-Secondary-is-not-large-enough/m-p/18472#M3894</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Adaik.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My source volume is dedup enabled.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Later I log a case with NetApp and found out that, I need to thin provision my destination and take advantage of PM Auto Provisioning.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is some formula that built within PM that caused the size to be extremely huge, which it take into consideration the growth rate for source volume. With below formula.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ProjSecSz = 1.1 * max[(2.0 * PriCurUsedSz), (1.2 * PriVolTotalSz)]&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That ' s what I missed and caused me to expand the dest volume each time! I wish NetApp share the documentation rather than customer find out like me by log in a case.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Captured explanation from NetApp Engineer:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;PriCurUsedSz&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is the Active File System Used Size of the Primary Volume.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;PriVolTotalSz&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is the Primary Volume Total Size.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1.1&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is a fixed, 10% margin added to volumes.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2.0&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is determined by the global, hidden option &lt;STRONG&gt;dpSrcVolUsedPct&lt;/STRONG&gt;. By default it is set to 200% in order to provide sufficient overwrite reserve for LUN containing volumes.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1.2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; is determined by the global, hidden option &lt;STRONG&gt;dpSrcVolTotalPct&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; By default it is set to 120% in order to estimate Projected Size&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; roughly the same size (initially) as in "classic" secondary&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; provisioning.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note: With the &lt;STRONG&gt;Volume Fan-In&lt;/STRONG&gt; feature enabled (i.e., &lt;STRONG&gt;dpMaxFanInRatio&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;gt; 1), the primary volume sizes are replaced by the sum of all volumes fanning into the secondary volume. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Btw, I need to specify my setup:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Initially, I set the dpMaxFanInRatio = 8 so that I can put multiple source volume into a Dataset, the above cause me to drop this finally and right now I am having a 1 to 1 relationship for my SnapVault (Backup).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:43:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/Protection-Manager-SnapVault-Secondary-is-not-large-enough/m-p/18472#M3894</guid>
      <dc:creator>leongkoklow</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-01-03T06:43:55Z</dc:date>
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