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    <title>topic Re: Protection Manager load balancing and sizing questions in Active IQ Unified Manager Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Mike --&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; How does Protection Manager select aggregates.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There's a lot of detail, but the basic plan is we first filter out all the aggregates that don't work for some reason (e.g. wrong licenses, overfull, storage system down, etc.).&amp;nbsp; Of the one that are left, we pick the one with the most free space (based on bytes, not percentage).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; SnapVault update scheduling.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Protection Manager tries its best to sort this out for you.&amp;nbsp; There's an option you can set per host specifying how many transfers the host can sustain (in the upcoming release, we can figure this out ourselves, assuming the storage system is running a recent version of ONTAP).&amp;nbsp; If we overload the storage system, we know how to back off and retry.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The bottom line is we should figure that out so the user's don't need to.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; Secondary volume sizing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Simple question, complicated answer.&amp;nbsp; Generally, we try to thin provision the secondary volumes, creating them the size of the destination aggregate, but turning off the space guarantee.&amp;nbsp; This lets the volume use what space it needs until the aggregate gets close to filling up.&amp;nbsp; When it does, we'll create a new secondary volume on a new aggregate.&amp;nbsp; There are ways to limit this if you're not comfortable letting Protection Manager mange the space so aggressively.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the upcoming release, we're enabling a model where we don't create quite so large secondary volumes and adjust the secondary volume size before each update.&amp;nbsp; This avoids some issues we discovered with ONTAP 7.3, plus it's easier for humans to wrap their heads around.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-- Pete&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:03:02 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>smoot</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-05-14T01:03:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Protection Manager load balancing and sizing questions</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/Protection-Manager-load-balancing-and-sizing-questions/m-p/41756#M8554</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm working with a customer to design their PM environment in preparation for the 3.8 release.&amp;nbsp; A couple of questions have come up that I can not find any documentation on:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL start="1"&gt;&lt;LI&gt;If we create a Resource Pool across multiple aggregates from multiple controllers, how will PM balance the destinations within those aggregates.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;With the customers old SV environment based on BCO, we had to manually balance how many relationships were being SnapVaulted at a time, to maintain a maximum SnapVault thread count.&amp;nbsp; Is PM capable of managing for this, such that if we put 200 SnapVault relationships into a single dataset to kick off at 8pm, will it run the maximum number of jobs that both the source/destination can handle?&amp;nbsp; Or, will it hammer the systems and get the no available threads message?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Does PM manage destination volume sizing for SnapVault or SnapMirror relationships?&amp;nbsp; If the primary data volume is grown, will PM update the size of the mirror destination.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; They are also interested in how the sizing is calculated for SV relationships as they are created.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color: #f8fafd;"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color: #f8fafd;"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color: #f8fafd;"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background-color: #f8fafd;"&gt;Thanks.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:28:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mbeadle</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Protection Manager load balancing and sizing questions</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/Active-IQ-Unified-Manager-Discussions/Protection-Manager-load-balancing-and-sizing-questions/m-p/41761#M8555</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Mike --&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; How does Protection Manager select aggregates.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There's a lot of detail, but the basic plan is we first filter out all the aggregates that don't work for some reason (e.g. wrong licenses, overfull, storage system down, etc.).&amp;nbsp; Of the one that are left, we pick the one with the most free space (based on bytes, not percentage).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; SnapVault update scheduling.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Protection Manager tries its best to sort this out for you.&amp;nbsp; There's an option you can set per host specifying how many transfers the host can sustain (in the upcoming release, we can figure this out ourselves, assuming the storage system is running a recent version of ONTAP).&amp;nbsp; If we overload the storage system, we know how to back off and retry.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The bottom line is we should figure that out so the user's don't need to.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; Secondary volume sizing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Simple question, complicated answer.&amp;nbsp; Generally, we try to thin provision the secondary volumes, creating them the size of the destination aggregate, but turning off the space guarantee.&amp;nbsp; This lets the volume use what space it needs until the aggregate gets close to filling up.&amp;nbsp; When it does, we'll create a new secondary volume on a new aggregate.&amp;nbsp; There are ways to limit this if you're not comfortable letting Protection Manager mange the space so aggressively.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the upcoming release, we're enabling a model where we don't create quite so large secondary volumes and adjust the secondary volume size before each update.&amp;nbsp; This avoids some issues we discovered with ONTAP 7.3, plus it's easier for humans to wrap their heads around.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-- Pete&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:03:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>smoot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-05-14T01:03:02Z</dc:date>
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