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Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

stepheno — Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:12:18 GMT

Hello,

I am trying to import an existing snapvault relationship into Protection manager 3.8. The relationship is on the same single storage controller. The source is from the physical server (vfiler0) to the destination on the vfiler (vfiler1).

This relationship works if done manually, but does not appear in external relationships in PM. If I attempt to add the relationship in PM, it will create a new SV relationship, but it will be from vfiler0 to vfiler0.

I need to have the relationship read (like when you do a snapvault status) vfiler0 as source and vfiler1 as destination. this is because of a snapcreator dependancy. SnapCreator will not instruct PM to update a vault if the snapvault status does not show as "source". when the relationship is from and to the same controller (vfiler0 to vffiler0) it will show as "snapvaulted"

Anyone encountered this or know of a way to get PM to import an existing relationship like this?

Thanks

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

adaikkap — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:17:45 GMT

DFM 4.0 supports SnapVault relationship on the same controller.

DFM 3.8 does not recognize/discover SnapVault source and destination on the same controller. So import of the same is not possible.

Regards

adai

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

smoot — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:47:53 GMT

This should work with DFM 4.0. As Adai said, it will not work with 3.8.

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

stepheno — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:05:47 GMT

Thanks for the replies.

Should I be able to see an existing relationship like the one described above in the 'External Relationships' pane? I am testing this in a lab right now and so far do not see that with version 4.

This is from vfiler0 to a vfiler1 relationship. any assistnace is appreciated.

Thanks

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

adaikkap — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 03:58:15 GMT

Is the relationship created using the vfiler0 interface for both vfiler0 and vfiler1 ?

As PM discovers only those created with vfiler0 interface and not vfiler1’s interface.

Regards

adai

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

stepheno — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 05:59:23 GMT

SV relationship was created inside the vfiler1 context as it is the destination. We configured it in this manner as the Snap Creator application will not perform snap vault updates if the source and destination are on the same controller. It wants to see "source" in the snapvault status output for the relationship. When both source and dest are on the same controller, it displays what a typical destination would display for a status, which is "snapvaulted".

A workaround was to create a vfiler and have the vault relationship going from vfiler0 to vfiler1 on this one controller. Now, we'd like to pull that vault relationship in PM and manager from there if possible. Based on your comments, it sounds like PM cannot manage this type of relationships (vfiler0 to vfiler1)

Do we know why this is?

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

adaikkap — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:04:45 GMT

PM can manage the type of relationship you are mentioning the only caveat is

The relationship has to be created using the vfiler0 interface for both vfiler0 and vfiler1 and not the other way.

Vfiler0 to Vfiler1 where in vfiler1 uses vfiler0 interface to snapvault.

Can you get us the output of SnapVault status ?

Regards

adai

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

stepheno — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:20:45 GMT

The first one is within the controller vfiler0 to vfiler0. psfonav1 is the "vfiler0".  Snap Creator plays nice with the last three as it wants to confirm that state field as "source".  sorry for the late reposons
 
 ===== SNAPVAULT STATUS L =====
Snapvault is ON.

Source:                 psfona01:/vol/b01/qb01
Destination:            psfona01:/vol/sv_snapcreator/qb01
Status:                 Idle
Progress:               -
State:                  Snapvaulted
Lag:                    01:29:43
Mirror Timestamp:       Sat Jul  3 22:30:20 PDT 2010
Base Snapshot:          psfona01(0135075343)_sv_snapcreator-base.55
Current Transfer Type:  -
Current Transfer Error: -
Contents:               Replica
Last Transfer Type:     Update
Last Transfer Size:     8 KB
Last Transfer Duration: -
Last Transfer From:     192.168.1.31:/vol/b01/qb01

Source:                 psfona01:/vol/a01/qa01
Destination:            psfonav1:/vol/sv_a01/qa01
Status:                 Idle
Progress:               -
State:                  Source
Lag:                    101:29:54
Mirror Timestamp:       Tue Jun 29 18:30:09 PDT 2010
Base Snapshot:          psfonav1(0135075343)_sv_a01_qa01-src.0
Current Transfer Type:  -
Current Transfer Error: -
Contents:               -
Last Transfer Type:     -
Last Transfer Size:     1103940 KB
Last Transfer Duration: 00:00:11
Last Transfer From:     -

Source:                 psfona01:/vol/b02/qb02
Destination:            psfonav1:/vol/sv_b02/qb02
Status:                 Idle
Progress:               -
State:                  Source
Lag:                    101:29:15
Mirror Timestamp:       Tue Jun 29 18:30:48 PDT 2010
Base Snapshot:          psfonav1(0135075343)_sv_b02_qb02-src.0
Current Transfer Type:  -
Current Transfer Error: -
Contents:               -
Last Transfer Type:     -
Last Transfer Size:     175128 KB
Last Transfer Duration: 00:00:02
Last Transfer From:     -

Source:                 psfona01:/vol/b03/qb03
Destination:            psfonav1:/vol/sv_b03/qb03
Status:                 Idle
Progress:               -
State:                  Source
Lag:                    101:28:40
Mirror Timestamp:       Tue Jun 29 18:31:23 PDT 2010
Base Snapshot:          psfonav1(0135075343)_sv_b03_qb03-src.0
Current Transfer Type:  -
Current Transfer Error: -
Contents:               -
Last Transfer Type:     -
Last Transfer Size:     1143020 KB
Last Transfer Duration: 00:00:12
Last Transfer From:     -

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

adaikkap — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 04:22:38 GMT

For the last three can you login to the psfonav1 and execute snapvault status and post the output ?

Regards

adai

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

stepheno — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:52:47 GMT

Status from psfona01:

psfona01> snapvault status

Snapvault is ON.

Source Destination State Lag Status

psfona01:/vol/b01/qb01 psfona01:/vol/sv_snapcreator/qb01 Snapvaulted 03:44:30 Idle

psfona01:/vol/a01/qa01 psfonav1:/vol/sv_a01/qa01 Source 11:02:54 Idle

psfona01:/vol/b02/qb02 psfonav1:/vol/sv_b02/qb02 Source 11:46:36 Idle

psfona01:/vol/b03/qb03 psfonav1:/vol/sv_b03/qb03 Source 11:46:36 Idle

Status from psfonav1:

psfonav1@psfona01> snapvault status

Snapvault is ON.

Source Destination State Lag Status

psfona01:/vol/a01/qa01 psfonav1:/vol/sv_a01/qa01 Snapvaulted 11:03:41 Idle

psfona01:/vol/b02/qb02 psfonav1:/vol/sv_b02/qb02 Snapvaulted 11:47:23 Idle

psfona01:/vol/b03/qb03 psfonav1:/vol/sv_b03/qb03 Snapvaulted 11:47:23 Idle

Re: Prot Man and Vfiler SV relationships

adaikkap — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:23:15 GMT

As you can see, your relationships are created using vfiler interface not filer interface.

That’s the reason why you don’t see them in PM.

IF you create the same relationship like this.

psfona01:/vol/a01/qa01 psfona01:/vol/sv_a01/qa01 Source 11:02:54 Idle

This relationship will be discovered by dfm.

Also if you create using filer interface, the snapvault status output from vfiler interface will not return those relationships.

And that what dfm want. Relationships created using filer interfaces for vfiler also.

Regards

adai