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    <title>topic Re: Snapmirror over running controller in VMware Solutions Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32678#M3233</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's really strange behavior, Brett.&amp;nbsp; What version of ONTAP?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't have 10GB in my environment, so perhaps that's a different ballgame, but if anything I've been frustrated with the exact opposite behavior.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my case, I have two 6000 series controllers at my DR site that are Snapmirror targets but do nothing outside that.&amp;nbsp; In one case, I wanted to move a large, 6+ TB volume from one controller to the other.&amp;nbsp; Long story short, because of the high cpu load on the source controller due to frequent snapmirror updates and lots of snapshots (deswizzling), I coudl not make SM push data any faster than 20 - 30 MBps on two GB links!&amp;nbsp; It was being throttled because the filer was busy doing other things, and it didn't matter that I wanted the SM transfer to be top priority (there is no way for me to control that).&amp;nbsp; In essence, I found Snapmirror did not alwasy perform the way I wanted because ONTAP throttles it so as not to overwhelm the controller.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now I hear the story you just told...&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for posting that.&amp;nbsp; It's interesting to see that 10 GB either completely breaks ONTAP's SM throlltling or it at least does not throttle it very well, which to me is actually preferred.&amp;nbsp; You can now manally control the speed at which it replicates.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One last thing to ask:&amp;nbsp; Is this an async SM relationship?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:00:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bsti</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-11-09T17:00:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Snapmirror over running controller</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32672#M3232</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just ran into an odd issue that I thought I would share.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My environment: V3240 IOXM HA pair with both FC and 10GB, serving VMware datastores, and linux and postgreSQL workloads.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In addition to native SAS (3GB) shelves, I have virtualized 2 IBM DS4800's for workload isolation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I set up a snapmirror relationship between 2 aggregates. The 2 aggregates were owned by different controllers, and were each on a different virutalized DS array.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My goal was to replicate the data over to the 2nd virtualized array, to begin the new isolated environment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I fired up the snapmirror, everything went south.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Disk Util went to 100% and stayed there (sysstat), and all of the datastores showed huge latency spikes. In addition, the VMs were responding very slowly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Confused, I aborted the snapmirror.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I then tried using snapmirror compression, with the exact same results.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I had thoughts about raid group size, etc...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;in the end, something in system manager caught my eye... 'unlimited bandwidth'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;we are not using an isolated interface for snapmirror (all ethernet goes over the 10GB link).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I decided to limit the snapmirror relationship to 1000gbps, and everything is working fine. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I plan on playing with the throttle a little to see how hard i can push it, but for now, 1GB is ok for 2 concurrent snapmirrors.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My theory is, the array did the theoretical communication math over the 10GB link, and pushed so much data, the controller got overrun.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just wanted to post this out there in case someone else runs into this, they will have a quick answer.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 06:15:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32672#M3232</guid>
      <dc:creator>BrettEdelen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-05T06:15:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapmirror over running controller</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32678#M3233</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's really strange behavior, Brett.&amp;nbsp; What version of ONTAP?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't have 10GB in my environment, so perhaps that's a different ballgame, but if anything I've been frustrated with the exact opposite behavior.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my case, I have two 6000 series controllers at my DR site that are Snapmirror targets but do nothing outside that.&amp;nbsp; In one case, I wanted to move a large, 6+ TB volume from one controller to the other.&amp;nbsp; Long story short, because of the high cpu load on the source controller due to frequent snapmirror updates and lots of snapshots (deswizzling), I coudl not make SM push data any faster than 20 - 30 MBps on two GB links!&amp;nbsp; It was being throttled because the filer was busy doing other things, and it didn't matter that I wanted the SM transfer to be top priority (there is no way for me to control that).&amp;nbsp; In essence, I found Snapmirror did not alwasy perform the way I wanted because ONTAP throttles it so as not to overwhelm the controller.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now I hear the story you just told...&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for posting that.&amp;nbsp; It's interesting to see that 10 GB either completely breaks ONTAP's SM throlltling or it at least does not throttle it very well, which to me is actually preferred.&amp;nbsp; You can now manally control the speed at which it replicates.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One last thing to ask:&amp;nbsp; Is this an async SM relationship?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:00:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32678#M3233</guid>
      <dc:creator>bsti</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-11-09T17:00:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapmirror over running controller</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32683#M3234</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am on 8.0.3p2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i didn't specify syncmirror, but the controllers are literally separated by 5m 10GB cables, can't remember if it does sync by default if they are close by.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is odd behavior. I am slowly cranking up the throttle now to see where the breaking point is (I'm up to 4096 now)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:05:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32683#M3234</guid>
      <dc:creator>BrettEdelen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-11-09T17:05:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapmirror over running controller</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32687#M3235</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;update, at 5gbps, my disk util spent more time in 100% than not, so i backed it back down to 4gbps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There, i see disk util going to 100% in short 2-5 second bursts every 20 seconds or so&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:35:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32687#M3235</guid>
      <dc:creator>BrettEdelen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-11-09T17:35:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapmirror over running controller</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32692#M3236</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ah, my apoloiges then. I'm referring to Volume Snapmirror.&amp;nbsp; It's interesting to see your results though.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for posting them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:29:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32692#M3236</guid>
      <dc:creator>bsti</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-11-12T14:29:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapmirror over running controller</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32697#M3237</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;nope, my error, was doing a million things.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;this is a volume snapmirror between HA filer controllers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i did some more investigation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;although my throttle is set to 4gbps, i am only seeing 20mbps-ish over the interface, but the controller performance tanks when i open up the throttle.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:01:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32697#M3237</guid>
      <dc:creator>BrettEdelen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-11-12T15:01:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Snapmirror over running controller</title>
      <link>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32702#M3238</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;update to this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i created two new snapmirrors between controllers to virtualized aggregates, and could raise the throttle to 10G on both without affecting anything&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so, i cannot recreate the original symptom&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:57:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.netapp.com/t5/VMware-Solutions-Discussions/Snapmirror-over-running-controller/m-p/32702#M3238</guid>
      <dc:creator>BrettEdelen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-11-27T15:57:13Z</dc:date>
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