Solved: Write and Read Latency issues

j_garrido · ‎2012-12-13

Hi,

I need understand an issues with latency. For us, is very important reduce a read latency. We have an ESXi (NFS datastores).

Iometer 66% reads and 34% writes. Aggr 11 SAS disk (9D+2P). Why I have a read latency higher than write latency? Only a 1 Esx and 1 VM are running, just for take a test with iometer, no more activity in the filer

CPU

NFS CIFS HTTP Total

Net kB/s

Disk kB/s

Tape kB/s Cache Cache

CP CP Disk OTHER

FCP iSCSI

FCP kB/s iSCSI kB/s

in

out

read write

age

hit time ty util

in

out

in

out

26% 1131

0

1601 16222 23740 16924 69632

0

3

96% 71% :

90%

10

0

460

0

2118

760

14% 1618

0

1732 18706 37584 13196

24

0

3

81%

0% -

74%

0

114

0

1014 1353

15% 1634

0

1833 19552 37102 14588

0

3

82%

0% -

78%

0

199

0

593 1652

14% 1711

0

1815 20223 38218 12676

0

3

83%

0% -

72%

1

0

103

0

716 1209

15% 1736

0

1945 20600 38134 13184

24

0

3

83%

0% -

73%

0

209

0

1033 1986

28% 1160

0

1357 14460 25949 13420 50676

0

3

94% 76% Hf 88%

3

0

194

0

552 1924

18% 1550

0

1807 18867 35195 14636 45808

0

3

91% 100% :f 86%

0

257

0

774 2389

17% 1455

0

1571 17128 32754 11800 44828

0

3

93% 100% :f 80%

0

116

0

115 1549

15% 1640

0

1750 19400 36122 14008 25108

0

3

85% 64% :

83%

0

110

0

558 1044

16% 1747

0

1936 22271 36834 11900

0

3

84%

0% -

78%

0

189

0

955

605

15% 1728

0

1856 20421 37963 12592

32

0

3

83%

0% -

77%

3

0

125

0

585

594

34%

892

0

1092 12045 19955 12572 163888

0

4

97% 86% Hf 91%

0

200

0

980 1263

18% 1551

0

1691 18931 33572 12568 5404

0

4

88% 21% :

80%

0

140

0

501

566

14% 1613

0

1746 18875 37702 13732

24

0

4

82%

0% -

79%

0

133

0

504 2666

Thanks in advance.

bsti · ‎2012-12-14

I'd definitley have a conversation with your NetApp Technical account team and see what they recommend. A few things to consider:

I believe IOMeter tends to read/write randomized data, so controller caching is less effective. THis means the 8ms response time you are seeing during your IOMeter tests may be a worse case than what you will see in production.

I'd ask about Flash Cache if read performance is a large issue for you. Flash Cache added to your controllers will give you a second, very fast layer of read only cache. It should improve overall read performance in most cases.

Less than 1 ms?!? SSD... maybe. Either pure SSD aggregates (Expensive!!) or Flash Pool aggregates with SSD on the front end and SAS on the back end. This is very high end stuff.

FAS 3250s aren't slow machines! They have lots of processing power. The larger units have more memory and expansion, and perhaps more processing power, but not much. You won't gain performance from a larger head unless you are stressing the 3250 performance-wise in the first place.

Hope that helps!

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bsti · ‎2012-12-14

Is your question simply "why is my read latency higher than my write latency"? In that case, that's pretty normal for WAFL. WAFL is write-optimized, meaning your application gets an ack back from WAFL once it sends the write to the controller and it's written to memory (and journaled to NVRAM). That's pretty fast,and doesn't yet involve disks. On your next CP, the data is flushed to disk.

Reads may be resident in memory (thus your Cache hit rate), but often times has to come from disk.

This document, though a bit old, does explain this in a bit more detail:

http://www.netapp.com/templates/mediaView?m=wp_3002.pdf&cc=us&wid=15141511&mid=15141511

HENRYPAN2 · ‎2012-12-14

Cool bsti :>)

My VDI users needs fast read......

Where could I find more recent docs which could help making my VDI user more happy on the slow FAS3250?

Thanks & Happy Holiday

Henry

bsti · ‎2012-12-14

Is 8ms read on NFS too slow? What performance are you expecting for that workload?

HENRYPAN2 · ‎2012-12-14

Ha-ha bsti,

My Christmas wish is to reduce the NFS read latencey down to 1 ms :>)

What action could be taken to make my wish come ture?

Cheers

Henry

bsti · ‎2012-12-14

I'd definitley have a conversation with your NetApp Technical account team and see what they recommend. A few things to consider:

I believe IOMeter tends to read/write randomized data, so controller caching is less effective. THis means the 8ms response time you are seeing during your IOMeter tests may be a worse case than what you will see in production.

I'd ask about Flash Cache if read performance is a large issue for you. Flash Cache added to your controllers will give you a second, very fast layer of read only cache. It should improve overall read performance in most cases.

Less than 1 ms?!? SSD... maybe. Either pure SSD aggregates (Expensive!!) or Flash Pool aggregates with SSD on the front end and SAS on the back end. This is very high end stuff.

FAS 3250s aren't slow machines! They have lots of processing power. The larger units have more memory and expansion, and perhaps more processing power, but not much. You won't gain performance from a larger head unless you are stressing the 3250 performance-wise in the first place.

Hope that helps!

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j_garrido · ‎2012-12-14

Thanks you, for extensive help

HENRYPAN2 · ‎2012-12-14

Good Idea bsti,

I'll chase my NetApp Technical account team & see what they recommend/offering:>)

Happy Friday

Henry

j_garrido · ‎2012-12-14

I just want to understand the high latency of reading as opposed to as low write latency.

bsti · ‎2012-12-14

Sorry, I got you confused with the other poster.

I think the document on WAFL will explain why write latency is so low. On a read, you are hitting disk, which takes time to serve up to the client. Writes don't usually have to wait for disk (unless you are in a back-to-back CP situation, which is very bad). Once it hits memory, your client gets an acknowledgement from the controller.

I've always found it strange to get used to as well that NetApp tends to write faster than read, which is not what one traditionally sees in storage hardware.

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